Heavyweight Division Depth by Decade: Let's Discuss the Rankings

Liston beat ONE ranked challenger in the 1950's MIke DeJohn no 10.
You calling anyone dumb is rich!

My question was were those I named .

Gardner
Sys
Williams
Cockell
Holman
Summerlin
Dunlap
Johnson
Oma
Savold
TOP NOTCH TALENT? And you did NOT answer it!

 

I don’t give a shite if Liston was ranked he beat Dejohn Valdez and Williams in 59 alone and was fighting since 53

 

I literally stated they r leftovers in my comment but I suppose reading isn’t ur area of expertise as u seem to ignore anything u don’t want to read. Now please show me the lists of other decades of top 20 fighters u think r so much better. Shouldn’t be difficult

 

I have to give you Valdes,I forgot him.
Williams was not ranked.So now you have 2 . That is NOT multiple wins.

 

I'll do that as soon as you answer my question.
Were the following top notch talent?
Gardner
Sys
Williams
Cockell
Holman
Summerlin
Dunlap
Johnson
Oma
Savold
TOP NOTCH TALENT?

You've done what you always do start with the insults,next you'll be calling me a liar again and then apologising,not to me, to the forum.

 

What does that have to do with him fighting in the 50s? He either fought in any part of the decade or he didn’t. He could have had one fight and qualified imo but he had seven years in the decade

 

Oh I agree and my rankings were done mostly using that. Just bringing up depth can mean different things and it really changes things for certain decades people are arguing about.

 

Two wins in the dacade is not multiple wins.

 

Harold Johnson and Williams would be considered top notch talent but the rest are not. Savold and Oma were irrelevant to depth in the 50s. It’s like me saying evangelists, Dunn, standar and Ramos were the depth of the 70s. It’s a weird statement that has nothing to do w actual depth of the 50s

 

I don’t care if had zero ranked wins. He fought 7 years in the decade. And more than one would be multiple. Not that it matters.

 

we don't have enough footage of 1980's to make any reasonable comparison

If we look at 1930 onwards,

1970's - Ali, Frazier, Foreman, Norton, Quarry, Shavers, Lyle and Bugner in the first half (in/near their primes) and Holmes, Young, etc. in the second half .

1990's - Lewis and Holyfield throughout the decade, Bowe in first half, Tyson only in 90-92, Morrison, Bruno, aging Foreman, Moorer, aging Holmes, Mercer and Witherspoon in the first half, then Tua, Ibeabuchi, Briggs in the second half.

Note: i am looking at guys when they were in/near their primes. For example , 96 Tyson is considerably removed from his prime, as is 77 Ali.

1960's: Ali for the entire decade minus exile, Liston from 60-64, young Frazier from 67-69, Bonavena, Quarry, Patterson, Williams in the early part of the decade, Terrell, Folley.

1980's: Holmes for first half, Tyson for second half. Two ATG's who peaked at different times in the decade. A legit top 30 all time guy in Witherspoon. Tony Tucker was decent. Massive underachievers but some solid guys in Pinklon Thomas, Buster Douglas, Michael Dokes, Gerrie Coetzee, Gerry Cooney etc. Just an era of big underachievers to be honest.

1930's
2000's
2010's
1950's
1940's

I am a bit confused as to where to rank 2020's but i suspect it will be higher than all of the above except 1970's and 1990's. We have already seen the brilliance of Usyk for the past 4 years. We have seen good performances from Joshua, Parker, Zhang, even guys like Joyce. Throw in the inconsistent Fury and Ruiz and the one dimensional Wilder plus guys like Kabayel and the emerging guys, i think it will surpass the 1980's at some point. It certainly is a better era than the 2010's (especially the first half).

 

You just called Williams a bum in another thread, now he's top-notch talent?

 

The Saudi's probably won't do it forever but as long as they are doing it, we will see some great fights in this decade, particularly at heavy. I suspect the next ATG heavy will emerge in this decade.

 

I said he would be considered by many…which he is. I personally think he’s a C fighter.