Where could Loma be P4P, if he beats Shakur and Tank ?

Loma is probably the best fighter I have ever seen. He gives up size and strength all the time but is so much better trained and savvy than they are. What a fighter.

 

You should watch usyk then, you will love him. It's weird that you havent watched him fighting, as I said, you will love it.

 

You ought to watch Loma fight sometime. You'd love him. It's weird you haven't watched him.

 

I've watched basically all his fights. I dont like fighters whose best victory is a 40 yo man who was dragged 2 full weights up. I dont like fighters who take 7 rounds to throw the first punch because they are scared of their oponents' power. I dont like figthers who lose clear but close and cant stop making excuses. Sorry.

Give Usyk a chance, he is everything you think loma is (and actually he is not). Believe me, you will love it.

 

The best you have ever seen ? Oh dear lord, imagine how overrated Lomachenkos gonna be in 20 years

 

But your original statement was "none of his losses are controversial" which is false.

The Haney fight is very controversial with the vast majority thinking Loma deserved the nod.

And the Salido fight as I said was a total farce with Salido not making the weight, and a biased referee allowing Salido to low blow all night long without any repercussions.

But yet you think corruption is an excuse apparently ? So obviously you're fine with corruption in the sport and think its legitimate. Or maybe it's just you having that narrative for this particular topic because you dislike Loma.

 

This coming from a guy who has Plant as his avatar? Enough said.

 

What does my avatar have to do with anything ? I don't suck plant off I know his limitations it's time you learn Lomas

The best fighter you've ever seen man stop trolling. I will never understand that tiny portion of Loma fans who think he's Duran and Tyson rolled up in 1.

 

But he beat Haney. Clowned him even.

 

It's hard to tell because the current 'big 3' look perfect - 2x undisputed, unbeaten etc. But beating Tank is a massive massive win, both sporting wise and marketing wise (these P4P lists are marketing really). Tank has perhaps one or 3 elite wins depending on how you define Pitbull Cruz & Ryan Garcia. The other win being of course Pedraza. Beating Martin, Barrios, LSC, Gamboa are not bad wins at all IMO, it's just that at his age, reputation and stage in career he should be fighting the very best only.
Shakur, regardless of how much your opinion of him was swayed by his last fight, is absolutely the real deal. Fighters (not near his weight class), trainers, promoters, analysts all pretty much agree he is elite. IMO he's the hardest fight for anyone at 130-140, so if Loma were to beat him as well he'd probably have the 2 most skilled scalps of any of the imaginary top 5 in this scenario. I don't think any of Inoue, Usyk or Bud have beaten a pair of fighters that skilled. I'd find it hard to not have him number one or two depending on what the rest do in that timeframe (they aren't getting a pair of wins that good in any case). With that said, I really don't see many routes to victory for him against Shakur right now. Shakur starts relatively fast unlike Loma, and doesn't really slow down significantly.