Did Marciano train down to the 180s?

Point out when I ever argued about Marciano training down .I'm not anti Rocky I'm anti his hero worshipping fan boys "Tua and Marciano were the same build"!!!!


.If you ever had any credibility here with anyone but the Rockistsa you lost it with that statement!

 

Marciano wasn’t fighting and prob weighed more than Tua at 21-24. Which would put them at similar builds height and weight but u get different results with different training regimens and diets. Do u really think Tua would weigh 210 with Marciano’s diet and regimen?

 

After three months of eating his mother's spaghetti and meatballs, yes, Rocky could weight 220.
But he'd make Andy Ruiz look like a body builder.

Maybe he could compete today as a cruiser at 190; hard to see him get down to 175. He was very lean at 185.

 

Little known fact. He also trained down his reach from 76" to 67".

In today's game, he would have an 82" reach.

 

And be 6ft 4in!

 

At 24 Tua was a well conditioned 226lbs as the Ibeabuchi fight proves ,at 24 Marciano was 180lbs.

 

At 24 Marciano was just starting out. Before he began training he was well over 210 go back a few years to 21 and Marciano weighed more then him at the same age. Ur grasping at straws and missing the point. The point is they were naturally the same and diets and regiments led them in opposite directions. This isn’t arguable. Now do u really think Tua weighs the same as he did using Marciano’s training regimen? The honest answer is no he doesn’t

 

Ok. I took "natural weight" as you meant it was a weight he was in shape at. But you just meant "out of shape"?

 

Dropping down 15 lbs for fight night isn't unusal, rather quite standard I guess. Bradley said in an interview once that he dropped down 20 lbs for fight night and he's much smaller. Guys like Duran an Toney, who were famous for blowing up between fights, had to drop more, even though I take the statements about how much with a grain of salt.

 

At what point did the Marcianistas start fabricating their narrative underpinning out of whole cloth? Just throwing out easily debunkable statements as if they were fact. Their only strategy seems to be to salad-shoot this BS at such a rate that ultimately it drowns out any response, or at least the interest of educated responders. Such is their zeal and fervor.

 

He'd just drop water weight without much problems. That's actually easier when you're lean since muscles contain much more water than fat does.

Inoue drops 10+ lbs of water weight to make 122, and he's still on the smallish side for that division. Rocky would have no problem at all today dropping that much of water to get down to 175.

 

"Before they started training,walking around weight, his training regime" i'ts all BS, we are focusing on what they actually weighed in shape ,in the ring.
ANYTHING ELSE IS TOTALLY IRRELEVANT !!!!

Tua weighed over 200lbs when he turned pro at 21and steadily added weight to an optimum weight of 226/230LBS THAT IS ABOUT 40/45LBS MORE THAN MARCIANO'S OPTIMUM WEIGHT AND NOBODY WAS EVER FITTER THAN ROCKY .

NO AMOUNT OF OBFUSCATION AND SPIN WILL EVER ALTER THAT STONE COLD FACT!

GIVE IT UP MATE FFS! YOU'RE EMBARRASSING YOURSELF!

 

Tacitly aware that Marciano would be massively outsized by todays giants,they resort to the old BS .
"if Rocky was training today he would be a hard 220lbs and lose none of his stamina or speed [joke].
WE compare fighters as they actually WERE,well the rational ones amongst us do.
It's desperately sad that they cannot face reality,but it is a fact!

 

The Rockettes are making Rocky bigger by the day. Soon he will be a shredded, diced to the socks 240 under modern circumstances. If only his trainers let him have the bananas we could have had the first modern superheavy! If a man is fat at 200lbs and in shape around 180 without lifting, they could probably hit the low 190s with lifting and adding good mass over time. Rocky with modern training would probably be like 198-202 (coming from an in shape 187-188) and if he added more he wouldn't be the same fighter. Rocky would also get shin implants which were not available then, making him around 6'4". Now that's a real goat. 6'4" Marciano with shin implants on steroids with Tommy Morrison's chest implants. That's exactly how things would play out! Let's take a guy with middling hand and foot speed and make him giant, but not account for the technical issues he would have moving that size. Size which he wouldn't really have anyway because he was a man of average stature and frame.

Tua has elite genetics for muscle and his frame is observably different than Marciano's, if you are equating the two physically, I got a bridge to sell you.

 

He clearly could have weighed more but he also clearly felt the mid to upper 180's were his best weight overall ... I rarely if ever remember seeing him tired so he did something right ..