Why wasn't Fury vs Hammer ruled a no contest

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  1. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Serious question ?

    Didn't Fury fail a drug test for that fight?
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Because boxing is a fragmented sport with no unified approach to dealing with doping. Hence why this fight, Khan's fight with Petersen remain wins for the person caught doping. Unless the sanctioning body decides to declare it a NC it's still officially counts as a win.

    God knows what happens if a unified champion is caught doping and the two sanctioning bodies have different rules or views and one strips him of the title and the other doesn't. Does that results then exist in a quantum state and both count as a NC and a win, lol.
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As much as I have come to despise Fury, the VADA decision was incredibly dodgy and left as many questions about VADA as it did about Fury.
     
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  4. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It should be NC if Fury failed for PEDs, yeah.

    Problem is that at the time they clearly didn't officially bust Fury and then turned around while in legal conflict with him before Wlad II and claimed he was dirty back then.

    What?
    There was no legal reason for them not to bust him at the time as he had no legal power to stop that and silence them. How could he?
    This suggests they are corrupt one way or another, which makes it hard to determine what actually happened.

    It's possible they did truly bust him for nando but protected him for the upcoming Wlad fight. Then later they decided to go after him for various reasons, and got themselves into a mess because of their own corruption.

    It's also possible Fury is telling the truth (originally), in that he and Hughie were sat down and warned about their levels of nandralone but not busted for PEDing, then later they turned it on him and to protect themselves in the legal battle. At this point the Fury's start talking about uncastrated boars to protect themselves also, which could be true or not (the consumption of), considering they are feral and eat hedgehogs and so on.

    In the end it depends what you believe. Nobody really knows except Fury and the agency, and they both are legally bound not to discuss it or whatever. So there we are.
     
  5. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What happened to fury is a lesson to us all never ever go against the establishment as they will crush you.
     
  6. gneall

    gneall Active Member Full Member

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    The establishment wanted Fury AJ for the money, they had every reason to help him avoid Usyk and get dodgy scorecards, how was he doing anything but follow the script?
     
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  7. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Vada wanted to be no contest and at first was going to be, but BBBOC overruled it, as Fury is big name and from UK. Vada is a doping agency, they can't do anything other than say this or that guy failed a drug test and then it is up to Governing Bodies and the boards.

    And there was nothing shady about Fury failed drug tests. It was delayed because of Fury team straight up put a lawsuit to keep them silent. Something that should not be allowed by athletes, cause in boxing this is how they get away. Whyte and many more pulled the same card.
    Don't forget that Fury also rejected a drug test, which is equal to a failed one, and he should be banned for even more years, but Boxing is corrupt as ...
     
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  8. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What's that got to do with palava with bbboc lol.
     
  9. gneall

    gneall Active Member Full Member

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    What are you saying Fury did to go against the establishment? BBBoC sanctioned him to fight an MMA fighter and get millions to duck and put Dubois in Usyks way
     
  10. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Schrödinger's Title awarded.
     
  11. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just some clarification as I can see a lot of people in the thread are confusing some things:

    1. Fury was caught on nandrolone by UKAD, not by VADA.
    2. Fury was caught on cocaine by VADA, which isn't a PED. Twice.

    So I guess, the answer would be, UKAD and VADA suspesnions work differently? Especially that, Hughie Fury, defendant in the same case as Tyson, was fighting all throughout the drama, even challenging Joseph Parker for the world title.
     
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  12. Kev2k83

    Kev2k83 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mate the comments fury was making at the time especially against the media, etc some which where out of order some not which kicked off an extraordinary witchhunt similar thing happened to Frankie Boyle. This was years before what your on about.
     
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  13. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Drug testers sat on that failed result for 1 1/2 years because they're corrupt and the test result was very borderline. That's why.
     
  14. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well it should have been, really, should it?
    But, why wasn't it?

    Well what we know of UKAD is it tends to go through its procedure which takes time and I gather the Furys also tied them and the BBBoC up in legal red tape. Rumour was UKAD/BBBoC couldnt afford to pursue the case: Team Fury's backers having the deeper pockets.
    At the end of the day the Furys agreed on back dated bans. i.e. they were guilty.

    So...why wasn't it ruled a NC?
    In part, probably because the BBBoC liked the idea of having a the guy on top of the sport being British. Well, until all of Fury's homophobic and sexist comments (= religious commentary).
    Plus, if they ruled Hammer (ie. the WBO final eliminator) a NC, then what happens to the result of the Klitschko fight?

    Perhaps Hughie not getting the nod against Parker for the WBO belt was the BBBoC serving out some revenge best served cold.

    But yeah the guy who really got screwed over in all this was Christian Hammer. That was his chance to challenge for the title and the guy who beat him failed a PED, and everything was brushed under the carpet.

    It's understandable that Hammer clearly became completely jaded with the sport and just turns up to sell his name: puts in a few rounds of effort, then clocks out. Boxing really screwed him over allowing the Fury result to stand.

    p.s. don't forget the damaged glove at the start of Fury v Hammer, Glovegaters... ;-)
     
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  15. fencik45

    fencik45 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    zero chance fury ever told the truth about anything, let alone juicing.
     
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