Prime George Foreman vs Zhang

Is that intellectually bereft clown still at it with the gobble gobble on Zhang’s nuts?

It’s an awfully strange hill to die on.

 

Beterbievs rate isn't just high its 100%. And no hes barely fought and hes a LHW. Having a 90-100% KO rate early in your career doesn't mean a fighter hits the hardest. But if a fighter did hit the hardest its something that should be there that goes down a little when you're fighting at a championship level and win close fights. But Zhangs KO rate was actually lower before he started fighting elite competition(Hrgovic fight) and was younger. Those decisions came in 2015, 2016 and 2019 when Zhang was 32,33 and 36.

Foreman stopped knocking people out at 45 and his KO rate at the time was 93%. When Zhang hit 40 his rate was over 15 points lower despite fighting many less fights and much lesser competition than George.

 

yeah I'm bored. Have fun jerking each other off guys

 

Excellent post.

 

This is cool. Our very own @apollack (yes Adam, we own you. ). refereed Zhang against
Eugen Buchmueller. PS - the very brief vision of the fight starts at the 45 second mark.

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All you've done throughout the entire thread is make outlandish predictions (Chuvalo beats Foreman without the latter's whopping 3 and a half pound weight advantage), fail to address arguments, manufacture strawmen, and insult posters when you have no response to their arguments.

 

nope I've kicked ass so much that my boot wore plumb out.

 

Case in point.

 

Well, 56-12 is pretty convincing. I can already guess who at least half the people voting for Zhang were, and most of them had pretty terrible reasons.

The arguments were mostly poor and utterly decimated under scrutiny. Again, I say for maybe the 3rd time I do not write Zhang off. He's huge, powerful, durable, and has decent skills. Plus his southpaw stance and odd right hook are significant threats. I wouldn't be "shocked" if he scored a knockdown or even managed to win, but I wouldn't favor him to win given Foreman's significant advantages in: punch selection (especially the jab), dedication to body punching, youth, better amateur pedigree with a better corner, more experience, arguably better timing, better finishing ability, and better reflexes. Foreman is >/= Zhang in power at worst and has a more proven heart and endurance in a grueling fire fight. Foreman has higher quality KO/Stoppage wins (and a better resume overall) and had no trouble landing (and winning) against men as tall as Zhang.

Foreman may get rocked, he may lose some rounds or ends up needing to pull himself off the canvas, but logically he should be favored to win. It would be one hell of a fight and a nail biter either way from start to finish. Unless Zhang does something amazing against the current crop of HWs in the future, I doubt we'll see anything to firmly swing the odds in his favor. Crushing the very limited and inexperienced (but durable) Joyce and stopping a very gunshy and worn out Wilder just isn't a very convincing body of work for a lot of people.

 

Are you trolling

 

Just going according to the prevailing reasoning around here.

 

Beterbiev isn't the size a 70s heavyweight and has fought nothing but large LHWs at best, what is even the point. Diminishing returns exist, 210/220 pound guys can hit like Super Heavyweights do you not remember Povetkin, Haye, Tua was 220 as well for much of his career

 

HERETIC! SIZE DOESN'T MATTER HAVENT YOU BEEN LISTENING??? OMG

 

Diminishing returns, you skipped the entire second half of my comment for obvious reasons, dishonest. Weight differences above 200lb isn't nearly as significant as below because those individual pounds make up a smaller percentage the larger you are, also large cruiserweights can hit like heavyweights. Gassiev is literally an example of this