Prime George Foreman vs Zhang

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Who wins and how

  1. Zhang stoppage

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    16.4%
  2. Foreman stoppage

    61 vote(s)
    83.6%
  3. Zhang Decision

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  4. Foreman Decision

    0 vote(s)
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  5. Draw

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  1. BCS8

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    you go ahead and argue with your friends about that
     
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    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You won't even refute it there's no argument to be had
     
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    In my world where physics are real, a 250lb guy hits harder than a 220lb guy.

    In the Classic la-la world of unicorns and milk waterfalls, they hit the same because ... reasons. And if the 220lb guy is FORTEman, he's the hardest hitting heavyweight in HISTORY and can punch so hard that he changes time. It's all facts.
     
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    Does Lewis hit harder than Shavers just because he weighs more? Lol
     
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    So this confirms you argue size as the absolute factor when determining punching power, despite the fact that several cases where smaller guys punch harder exist. Physics is real, that doesn't mean mass is all that matters, body mechanics, technique using full torque, strong back muscles, etc and then there's lanky power. As far as I can tell, all one has to do is bring up examples of smaller heavyweights hitting like larger ones or just smaller guys hitting harder in general to disprove your argument

    Arreola put Gassievs power above all the SHWs he has sparred including Martin and Breazeale who have good power. But by your logic this goes against the laws of physics because gassiev is smaller. Argument debunked
     
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    Lennox Lewis would put a hole through Shavers with his best shot
     
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    Better yet does, Valuev hit harder than Shavers because of his superior size?
     
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    Does it? Where did I say that? The implication is all things being equal.
     
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    You said Zhang is bigger so he hits harder story over. That's not an argument considering so many examples to debunk those kinds of absolute assumptions, but even if Zhang hits harder it doesn't guarantee victory. Foreman outlasts him and stops him
     
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    Someone's dodging questions again.
     
  11. BCS8

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    you need to learn to parse an argument
     
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    I guess in the world of "Facts and Logic", he always will. Lol
     
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    Lewis > Shavers
     
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    That's literally all you said, do you need me to quote you ? You mentioned Zhang being bigger and therfor he hits harder because of physics, when several exceptions exist in boxing. It's not really an argument. You're still avoiding the examples, because you have no answer.

    Even if you're correct Zhangs gas tank is complete crap anyway, he will gas at the pace and get stopped
     
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    Arguing with a brick wall never seemed so enticing.