Where do you have Gervonta Davis on your P4P ranking?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Flo_Raiden, Jun 20, 2024.

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Tank P4P ranking

  1. Top 1-5

    3 vote(s)
    8.6%
  2. Top 6-10

    18 vote(s)
    51.4%
  3. He hasn't done enough to be in the Top 10 P4P ranking

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    40.0%
  1. Noel857

    Noel857 I Am Duran Full Member

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  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You are statman, I remember your statman thread arguing Floyd > Duran.

    However it's not the stats that compare here, it's that Davis has never once proven himself the best, in any division he's fought in. Canelo and Inoue have.
     
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  3. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Oddly, The Ring has him at number 1 at 135, arguably the deepest division in boxing.
     
  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    It's not odd at all,, he's just knocked out Martin.

    The ring had Lopez there, Tank never fought him.
    They had Kambosos there, Tank never fought him.
    They had Haney there, Tank never fought him.
    They had Lomachenko there, Tank never fought him.

    Like I said, he's never proven himself the best in any division.
     
  5. PillowFists

    PillowFists New Member Full Member

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    Just outside the top 10.
     
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  6. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He did not beat any champion and he is top 10 P4P ? why ?
     
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  7. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Here are some numbers to tickle your fancy:

    At 135, there are 2308 participants.

    At 122, there are 1314 participants.

    It’s a logical fallacy to treat each division as an equal.
     
  8. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Because he's an exciting American PBC guy whose hype outweighs his own ability or accomplishments. He has actually beaten one champion in the ring so far, Pedraza 7 years ago and hasn't had a win as good since.
     
  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Statman returns.

    He's never proven himself the best in any of his divisions.
     
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    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    It’s possible that I was poking fun at you with those numbers.

    The root of the issue here is that you’re inventing your own weird criteria, whereas most people look at opposition beaten, in ring performance, and loses or lack thereof. You won’t catch me putting Emmanuel Rodriguez over Frank Martin due to a number or a trinket.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Weird criteria?

    If we're going to discuss the top boxers on the planet, I'm going to be discussing those who've actually proven themselves the best in their division.

    Davis has never once fought a guy ranked in the top 3 of any division he's fought in. That's who he's fought, guys who sit outside the top 3.
     
  12. pincai

    pincai The Indonesian Thin Man Full Member

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    Mix with eyeball and resume:
    Usyk
    Inoue
    Crawford
    Canelo
    Bivol
    Beterbiev

    not really care after that.. you can have
    Bam, Loma, Teo, Tank, Ioka, Nakatani etc..
    I might have miss some names
     
  13. Kell Macabe

    Kell Macabe I don’t know s*** about boxing Full Member

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    9 at the moment.
     
  14. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Yes, I have him at #10.

    He's just entered the top ten on my list because he was impressive against Martin, who is a decent fighter. If he fights and defeats Stevenson, Haney or Lopez he can be higher.
     
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    Outside the 10 Top until he takes on top challenger or champion on equal terms