The scary reality of facing Gervonta “Tank” Davis

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Olu G. Rotimi, Jun 18, 2024.


  1. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    My view is this world champions are world champions past, present or future. As for primes that can only be truly assessed with certainty in the round when a fighter retires.

    I have said it before Tank has also beaten quite a few undefeated fighters which is nothing to be sniffed. Fellow English man Liam Walsh was one and I know you like guys winning on the road in front of a hostile home crowd. Tank destroyed him in the UK at the Copperbox and whatever anyone says Walsh was a very good fighter.

    Rolly, Hector Garcia, Frank Martin , Ryan Garcia and Issa Cruz are all excellent wins against top contenders. And future world champions. You have some front calling some of these guys D level. Of course when Tank beats them they are no good anyway or trash which proves my point on the biased analysis against Tank.

    Coach Calvin has made it clear that Tank is going to fight Issa Cruz again.

    According to you Loma a 2time lightweight champion who just defeated Kambosos in his last fight and is a multi divisional world champion is past his prime. Sounds like an excuse to me.

    Tank vs Loma looks to be scheduled for November in a few months but it would appear you are worried about this or am I wrong?

    Your smoke and mirrors narrative as regards Tank resume does not work with me Sir. No way. The moment of truth is coming.
     
  2. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    But both hid from the best of their respective divisions during their primes.

    Wilder was worse for it, and obviously a much less skilled fighter... But nonetheless Tank is overhyped by avoiding the toughest fights, in that sense he's doing the same as Deontay.
     
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    BS.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thank you for answering, Olu

    Beating shot to bits world champions and then acting like they're good or notable wins and then citing said wins as evidence of your fighter's great resume is incredibly disingenuous

    As is acting like WBA regular champions were real world champions. How could Barrios be the world champion when Josh Taylor was undisputed at that weight? If Twink wanted to be considered the real world champion and a legit three-weight champ he should've gone after the real world champion just like Loma has done in every division, ditto for Inoue, Crawford and Usyk etc.

    And when they cherrypicked Barrios for his WBA regular belt Ellerbe said the reason they weren't fighting the real world champ Josh Taylor was because he ''brought nothing to the table.'' Nothing except being undisputed, ranked P4P#5, and having fought over in the US multiple times including becoming undisputed over there against popular Mexican-American JCR.

    This is the smoke & mirrors I'm talking about. Shamelessly ducking the elite, cherrypicking regular champs or shot old men who were champs long ago, dragging world champions or former world champs up in weight repeatedly and then the PBC/Showtime hype machine trying to pull the wool over our eyes acting like his resume is amazing, he's legit three-weight champion, has fought 10 prime real world champions who were world champions at the weight he fought them at and Twink's fans doing the exact same when they know goddamn well it's a pack of lies and that he has been studiously avoiding the elite guys in every weight division he's fought in.

    Loma and Usyk not only do the exact thing the PBC hype machine pretend Twink does but they do it on the road and in their opponent's backyards with no home officials sans 2 judges for Usyk and they've been doing it from the get-go right up until now, or at least after Usyk's first 9 fights.

    This is why they get credit and respect. Because they constantly seek out the best, fought real world champions, prime world champions, on the road or in their opponent's backyards and why they warranted their P4P status and they don't duck or dodge nobody or try to weaken them at the negotiating table or drag up shot fighters in weight

    Which of these fighters Usyk has fought do you consider world champions

    Belly
    AJ
    Dubois
    Briedis
    Gassiev
    Glowacki
    Huck
    Bellew

    Olu, there's no assessing primes with regard to some of the world champions he's fought are in their late 30s and have been shot to smithereens for years, as Cristobal Cruz and Gamboa were :lol:

    And a murderous punching 130-135 pounder with a KO 93% repeatedly dragging up 122-126-130 pounder former or current world champions up in weight instead of fighting the real world champions and elite fighters in his own division is just more smoke and mirrors. They knew damn well those fighters stood no chance for goodness sake

    Liam Walsh is a domestic/Euro level fighter at best and it's the only time ''the face of boxing'' has fought outside the USA. Usyk beat AJ, Briedis, Gassiev, Glowacki, Bellew, Huck in their backyards and Belly and AJ in Saudi which weren't really neutral if we're being honest. The ''face of boxing'' Twink beat Liam Walsh in England lol. Night and day in terms of difference lol

    I never called Martin, Barrios and Cruz D level. I said Twink saw them win gifts or go life and death against C and D level opposition before they were deemed safe enough opponents to stick Twink in with. Those guys are C level and Rolly is pure D level.

    You mean the same Calvin Ford who said this?

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    Ford says let's ''keep it real'' regarding who Loma's fought. This is the same crap we see all the time from Twink fans. Trying to discredit Loma's far superior resume and boost Twink's and then why we turn it back on them they cry about it

    OK let's do exactly that

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    Yes Loma is obviously clearly considerably past his prime and has been for years and if he wasn't Twink wouldn't even be contemplating fighting him. You even agreed he'd lost a step when he fought Teo

    Explain to me how Loma was ''old,'' ''very old'' and an ''old man'' back in 2019 and 2020 according to Twink, Floyd and Haney but he's not old and past his prime 4-5 years later? :lol:

    And why Twink deserves credit should be finally stop ducking Loma after seven freaking years of shamelessly doing so to face a fighter he called an old man in 2019? :lol:

    No I'm just exposing you Twink fans who know goddamn well your boy has ducked Loma like he had leprosy for seven years, defended the shameless duck and pretended like he wasn't ducking him, are still doing so, and watched him and Floyd openly admit they were ageing Loma out and admit they wanted zero to do with him while he was in his prime.

    I told you this is exactly what you would do when Twink finally ever so conveniently started to show and interest in fighting Loma when he was old and is well past his prime after irrefutably ducking him like crazy for seven years even though the fight would've been in the US on a deck heavily stacked deck in Twink's favour with a home ref and three home judges.

    You don't get to duck a fighter for seven years, intentionally age them out, and then get credit for facing an old well past their best version of them.

    Everything I've said re. Twink is true. I think he's an excellent fighter. A P4P top 10 talent. But he HAS been ducking Loma like crazy for seven years. He has been avoiding the elite in every division he's campaigned in. And his resume IS very smoke and mirrors heavy which was constructed to pull the wool over the casual's eyes. And you know this is all true, Olu.
     
  5. oldcanvasback

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    thanks. if that's the case I agree too
     
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  6. BoxingWarrior

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    He looked a complete boxer puncher with ring generalship fighting tomato cans and cab drivers... Your claim that does no change the fact that he looked average when he he fought Pitbull. Had he fought loma in his prime he would have looked below average.
     
  7. BoxingWarrior

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    Dont include Pitbull in his win as a good win, as it was a very questionable win. Tank won the fight with the help of his fellow American judges but if you put the same fight in Pitbull's backyard you guess? . To educate you he fought a good number of undefeated cab drivers and tomato cans and they cannot be regarded as a good win on an elite level. Tank has not fought an elite fighter in his entire career let that sink in.
     
  8. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    When he fights Loma he will separate Loma from his senses however keep making excuses if it gives you a warm fuzzy feeling.
     
  9. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    BS.
     
  10. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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  11. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Still not going to address this slander of the good people of Australia @Olu G. Rotimi ?
     
  12. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Good people and you being representative? I congratulate you and then rather than acknowledging with thanks you abuse me. Nothing to address as proof is in the pudding.
     
  13. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Population of 26 million and you slander the whole country that is multi cultural. You really are a dumb POS
     
  14. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    I don’t slander a whole country. Rather I sent my congratulations yet you abused me. You are the one who is irremediably a POS. Stop crying like a Sheila.
     
  15. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    You, Pimp C etc. use this stock answer when you get a legitimate question you cannot answer eg he was cleared =Floyd . Proof is in the pudding = Tank lol c'mon answer properly
     
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