Remind me why Inoue is pfp higher than Tank Davis.

Wizbit1013 · Jun 20, 2024

NoNeck said: ↑

Barroso wasn't going to finish that fight even if they let it go a little longer.
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You killed it already with the last post

Dont kill the trolling memories

NoNeck · Jun 20, 2024

Wizbit1013 said: ↑

You killed it already with the last post

Dont kill the trolling memories
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Refute or back the OP or exit.

Wizbit1013 · Jun 20, 2024

NoNeck said: ↑

Refute or back the OP or exit.
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None of the above

iceferg · Jun 22, 2024

Who's Davis really beat? Frank Martin hasn't done much in the pro game, Rolly isn't top 20. Garcia was dead at the weight has never won a title.

I do think he's good passes the eye test but he needs to go out clean up at least 1 division. If he was British he wouldn't be getting rated in the top 10 p4p most likely.

NoNeck · Jun 22, 2024

iceferg said: ↑

Who's Davis really beat? Frank Martin hasn't done much in the pro game, Rolly isn't top 20. Garcia was dead at the weight has never won a title.

I do think he's good passes the eye test but he needs to go out clean up at least 1 division. If he was British he wouldn't be getting rated in the top 10 p4p most likely.
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Garcia was totally fine, likely better than against Haney. He quit due to knowing he’d get knocked out. But on the topic of British fighters, Garcia already stopped England’s best lightweight and ended his career. Funny how you guys walk face first into this stuff.

As for Rolly, he’s the guy who Tank fought that panned out the worst and he still won a 140 title. The others have been shining.

And Frank has a good career ahead of him if he stays focused.

oldcanvasback · Jun 22, 2024

2 weight undisputed. 4 weight champ. No rehydration clauses. Not dragging guys up or down in weight class to weaken opposition.

NoNeck · Jun 22, 2024

oldcanvasback said: ↑

2 weight undisputed. 4 weight champ. No rehydration clauses. Not dragging guys up or down in weight class to weaken opposition.
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Tank never dragged anyone up or down in weight. Hector Garcia elected to fight him at 135, but I have no clue who else you could be talking about.

Glaringly obvious is your total failure to mention the names of the guys Inoue beat to become “undisputed,” and we know why that is.

oldcanvasback · Jun 22, 2024

NoNeck said: ↑

Tank never dragged anyone up or down in weight. Hector Garcia elected to fight him at 135, but I have no clue who else you could be talking about.

Glaringly obvious is your total failure to mention the names of the guys Inoue beat to become “undisputed,” and we know why that is.
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It/s glaringly obvious that you are making a semantic argument, and we all know why that is.

NoNeck · Jun 22, 2024

oldcanvasback said: ↑

It/s glaringly obvious that you are making a semantic argument, and we all know why that is.
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I disagree. You fear naming the specifics because you personally like one guy and dislike the other.

Every comparison I did in the OP checks out.

vast · Jun 22, 2024

Inoue is by far the better fighter. Has faced better competition without the bogus rehydration clauses. Get real pal.

NoNeck · Jun 22, 2024

14 pages deep. Not a word has been written that actually disputes the specific claims in the OP.

DobyZhee · Jun 22, 2024

NoNeck said: ↑

14 pages deep. Not a word has been written that actually disputes the specific claims in the OP.
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I was at this fight..

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go back to your marmite factory job.

NoNeck · Jun 22, 2024

DobyZhee said: ↑

I was at this fight..

This content is protected

go back to your marmite factory job.
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I’ve seen Tank fight in person. Here’s your cookie.

Flo_Raiden · Jun 22, 2024

NoNeck said: ↑

14 pages deep. Not a word has been written that actually disputes the specific claims in the OP.
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@Serge made some good points in another thread. Care to refute this one?

Serge said: ↑

The PBC smoke & mirrors that is Twink's resume

How many actual real world champions has he fought and not WBA regular champs?

How many were shot to hell?

Dragged up in weight at least 1 or 2 divisions?

How many were champions at the weight he fought them at?

Were world champions long before he fought them?

Now ask all those questions about Inoue who, unlike Twink who ducked back down to his 2nd weight class because those guys were ''too big'' for him up there'' after cherrypicking the WBA regular paper champ at 140, became undisputed in his 3rd and 4th weights classes and has been fighting real world champions not WBA regular ones, champs who were in their primes almost all of whom if not all were champs at the weight he fought them at, not fake champions, dragged up in weight, shot to bits champions who were champs long ago, or champs weakened at the negotiating table with rehydration clauses.

Inoue is a legit four-weight champ. Twink is a legit two-weight champ but it was only a legit one-weight one until he was recently upgraded to full WBA champ by his good buddies at the WBA after Haney vacated his belts

Of the 10 'world champions' he has fought

Yuriorkis Gamboa was the WBA regular champ, 38 y/o and shot to hell and was a real world champion way back in 2013

Cristobal Cruz was 38, shot to bits, a world champion way back in 2009 down at 126, as was 1-7-2 in his last 11 fights

Hugo Ruiz was a world champion down at 122

Jesus Marcelo Cuellar was a former WBA regular champion down at 126, a career 126 who never fought at 130, and was coming off a 16 month layoff and a loss but was somehow nominated to contest the vacant 130 title with Tank.

''Somehow'' meaning that someone has a very cosy relationship with the WBA and one could easily be forgiven for thinking that the WBA's palms are being greased by someone they shouldn't be in return for favours because the WBA, and the WBA regular belt, is a recurring theme here

More on the Cuellar corruption

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/davis-cuellar-alberto-machado-and-wba-corruption.606231/

Mario Barrios was the WBA regular champion at 140 who won his belt via a hometown gift from his three home judges against a seven fight novice. Not sure if he's been upgraded to the full champ at 147 yet or not but he earned his shot at the WBC interim belt after going 1-2 in his previous 3 fights, the KO loss to Twink at 140 and getting schooled by an injury-ravaged inactive Keithy who hadn't fought in 2.5 years. Barrios won the interim belt against Ugas who earned his shot at it by getting the soul beaten out of his body and stopped in his previous fight by Spence

Leo Santa Cruz was the IBF champ at 118, the WBC champ at 122, the WBA champ at 126, and he won the WBA belt in his previous fight, and only fight at 130, when paired up for the vacant title against fellow 126 pounder. Twink was always a 135 pounder not a 130 and his size and power advantage was always going to be way too much for 122-126 pounder Leo who prior to then the hardest puncher he'd faced was probably blown up 122 pounder Frampton

Hector Garcia was the champ at 130 and dragged up to 135

Rolando Romero became the WBA 140 champ in his very next fight after getting knocked out by Twink down at 135 when he was paired up against a 40 y/o Barroso for the vacant title despite the fact he'd never fought at that weight and, as said, was coming off a KO loss in his previous fight.

The corruption was on full display as soon as they announced the fight. It was supposed to be a gimme for Rolly to pick up a free world title but Rolly is such trash even senior citizen Barroso (who was KO'd by KO32% Anthony Crolla way back in his prime) not only dropped him but was soundly beating his ass prior to the corrupt as sin ref having to intervene to make sure everything went according to plan and Rolly left the ring with that belt wrapped around his waist

The ref called a blatant push a KD in Rolly's favour and then later dived and waved the fight off over nothing in what was one of the most brazen displays of corruption you'll ever see

And let's not forget Rolly also got his ass whooped by Jackson Martinez prior to facing Twink but the three home judges robbed Martinez blind.

Jose Pedraza was the IBF champ at 130 and the WBO champion at 135

Isaac Cruz Isaac became world champion by beating the useless Rolly

As for Twink's 'Three weight world champion'' status

He became a two weight 'world champion' after being paired up for the vacant WBA regular belt against a shot always chinny 38 y/o Cuban leprechaun Gamboa who'd stopped 2 of his last 11 opponents.

And he became a three-weight 'world champion' when he beat Barrios for the good old WBA's regular belt. Loma was the real WBA world champion but he wanted zero part of him

Everyone knows Josh Taylor was the only world champion at 140 because he was, duh, undisputed but apparently he ''brought nothing to the table'' other than his four world titles, Ring belt, and P4P ranking. Barrios brought more than him

Twink is an excellent fighter but his resume is trash. He had over 220 amateur fights and has been a pro for 11 years but his best win still to this day is Pedraza who Loma took on as a tune up just seven months after shoulder surgery when not near 100%. Loma's surgeon strongly advised him to not come back that quickly and when Loma refused to listen he advised Loma to devise a game plan which revolved around not throwing his right hook.

See what I mean about smoke and mirrors?
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DobyZhee · Jun 22, 2024

NoNeck said: ↑

I’ve seen Tank fight in person. Here’s your cookie.
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Sure you have buddy..

Must be nice to travel to Australia to have Kambosas lose..

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