the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Good work Scar if you ever want another decent Norris fight to watch his fight vs Golota is another example of Norris doing well and holding his own vs a big Heavyweight in a entertaining fight.

No one talks about Orlin Norris but he was an above average Cruiserweight champion and held his own in the Heavyweight division beat Page, McCall, Tucker.

 

Michael Brodie v In Jin Chi I (vacant featherweight title)

Round 1: 10-8 Chi (Chi's round and Brodie deducted a point for an unintentional headbutt)
Round 2: 10-8 Chi (scores a knockdown)
Round 3: 10-9 Brodie
Round 4: 10-9 Brodie
Round 5: 10-9 Chi
Round 6: 10-9 Brodie
Round 7: 10-9 Brodie
Round 8: 10-10 Even
Round 9: 10-9 Chi
Round 10: 10-9 Chi
Round 11: 10-9 Chi
Round 12: 10-10 Even

Total: 116-112 Chi (actual scores: 114-112 Chi and 2 scores of 113-113 for a majority draw)

Man, you have to break this fight down in 2 parts. The actual match, which was exceptional, and then the complete hash-job the officials performed.

Regarding the fight: fantastic! Brodie was so strong and should have stuck to his strong jab to move Chi to the ropes where he performed well. But Chi had other ideas and would fire back where his sharp hooks and bottomless tank took Brodie's measure. I believe I gave Brodie credit for everything and British announcers Glenn McCrory and Ian Darke had comparable cards to mine, so I was somewhat amazed at the closeness of the scores.

The officials: They sucked! What an unprofessional ending from a set of WBC/British officials. For one, the referee apparently deducted a point from Brodie, which was clearly accidental as they both were moving in and where Brodie was the one actually cut. We didn't even know this until the TV cameras moved in while they were screwing up their cards and saw the point deduction which no one knew about. Then tallying the cards up took forever. I think they would have tallied it up quicker with an abacus. Moreover, even with Jose Sulaiman jumping in and adding things up, they still screwed it up and announced a majority decision for Chi and even had the poor guy wearing the championship belt before taking it away a half hour later when they stated that the judge who had it 113-112 for Chi added wrong and made it 113-113 for a majority draw. What a mess of an ending to a great fight.

 

Hi Scar, here’s my card from a while back and I had it similar to you.


Michael Brodie v Injin Chi 1

1 8-10 (wild opener. Chi and Brodie bumped heads - Broadie docked a point. Bad gash on top of Brodie’s head. Chi rocks Brodie towards end of round)
2 8-10 (Chi puts Brodie down)
3 10-9
4 10-9 (Brodie into the fight now)
5 9-10 (close)
6 10-9
7 10-9 (Brodie boxing well. Good back and forth action)
8 10-9
9 9-10
10 9-10
11 9-10 (close)
12 9-10
Broadie 111-115 Chi

 

Jel, we were clearly watching the same fight, unlike the judges.

 

Salvador Sanchez v Rocky Garcia (featherweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 2: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 3: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 4: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 5: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 6: 10-10 Even
Round 7: 9-9 Even (Sanchez' round but docked a point for a low blow)
Round 8: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 9: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 10: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 11: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 12: 10-10 Even
Round 13: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 14: 10-9 Sanchez
Round 15: 10-10 Even

Total: 149-138 Sanchez (actual scores: 147-138, 146-141 and 147-141 all for Sanchez)

Garcia was a good, tough fighter but was second best in everything but heart. I remember this fight and was amazed when Rocky got this assignment as he was really nothing but a grade above prospect. But he did put in a gutsy effort. I believe I gave him everything I could for this bout. He really never mounted an attack against Sanchez, but counter when Sanchez came forward. But that aside, I did enjoy the contest.

 

Rodriguez is one of the few fighters today whom I really like and follow. Well done.

 

I’ll be rooting for Estrada but what a cracking matchup it is.

 

I scored the fight for Chocolatito personally but don't disagree with your assessment of it at all. Chocolatito and his team say they use the 1st round to strategise and get a feel for how they'll approach an opponent. And while Choc does mostly scout Estrada in the 1st, he also is taking Estrada's jab away. He gets under his jab, slips the jab, moves laterally to hinder Estrada's ability to throw it, and counters the jab once or twice in the 1st iirc. Choc and his team rightly assessed that the bulk of Estrada's offence is set up by his jab, so worked to undermine it throughout all 3 fights. I love all 3 fights though and Estrada fought well in all.

 

Oh, yeaaahh!!

 

Oleksandr Usyk vs Murat Gassiev for the undisputed cruiserweight titles:
Usyk vs Gassiev:

1. 10-9 Usyk. Usyk works beautifully behind the jab and confuses Gassiev with his movement.
2. 10-9 Usyk. Gassiev lands some good shots here and there but Usyk gets the better of the round and controls the action.
3. 10-9 Usyk. Gassiev is more aggressive this round and backs up Usyk at points but largely fails to land clean and when he does, he’s met by a crisp counter.
4. 10-10. Both men put in a lot of good work. I thought Usyk might have had the better of the round but Gassiev landed a big right hand to close the round.
5. 10-9 Usyk. Dominant round for the Ukrainian. Arguably a 10-8.
6. 10-9 Usyk. The first half of the round was close arguably belonged to Gassiev. Then Usyk tattoos him with combinations for the rest of the round.
7. 10-9 Gassiev. Gassiev lands some heavy shots and is the aggressor. There’s not a lot in this round and it could probably be given to Usyk but Gassiev landed the cleaner and more effective punches.
8. 10-9 Usyk. Usyk boxed excellently and dominated this round.
9. 10-9 Usyk. Closer round but one still belonging to the man from Crimea. First time I noticed Steven Seagal in the crowd too lol.
10. 10-8 Usyk. Gassiev was completely outclassed here, he landed maybe 3 meaningful clean punches to Usyk’s two dozen or so clean punches and combinations.
11. 10-8 Usyk. Man is Usyk good. He boxed Gassiev’s ears off and the Russian had no reply.
12. 10-8 Usyk. Gassiev had no clue what to do anymore and Usyk just landed at will. Thorough domination.
    Total: 119-107 Usyk
    Usyk is a deeply special caliber of fighter. He fights a fellow unified world champion and top level fighter in his own backyard and utterly dismantles him to the point of farce. Those last 3 rounds were some of the most one-sided rounds I think I’ve seen in a long time in a fight between two champions. This was a truly virtuoso performance from Usyk, The Cat is just so endlessly skilled and intelligent. I tell ya, this Oleksandr guy is really something.
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Manny Pacquiao vs Oscar De La Hoya:
Pacquiao vs ODLH:

1. 10-9 Pac. Close round but Pac lands more and lands the better shots despite being backed up for the most part.
2. 10-9 Pac. Manny outlands ODLH and slips most of Oscar’s best punches.
3. 10-9 Pac. Closer round but Pac still got the better of it.
4. 10-9 Pac. Another close round but Pac still gets the best of it and his combination punching, counters, and head movement are all top notch.
5. 10-9 Pac. Clear round for the Filipino.
6. 10-9 Pac. The round begins with some good exchanges, the pace lulls then the pair start trading again to close the round. Pac lands the better shots though.
7. 10-8 Pac. Oscar is pressured and tattooed around the ring, beaten from pillar to post by the man from the Philippines. Pure willpower kept him standing under the pressure of the barrage he took in this round.
8. 10-9 Pac. The closest and quietest round of the fight until Pac finishes strongly with clean combinations to Oscar’s head and body who is rocked badly in the closing seconds of the round. The fight is stopped by Oscar’s corner.

Total score: 80-71 Pac.
Manny Pacquiao is extraordinary. Plain and simple. No other fighter in the history of the sport has come close to the monumental accomplishments of this Filipino dynamo. In fact, this fight was against the one man who comes closest to Manny in terms of multi-weight achievements. A lot of folk make a lot of noise about how old Oscar was and how drained he was but I don’t wanna get into that and my objections to these arguments or their use in diminishing this win for Pacquiao. The fact of the matter is that Pacquiao looked unstoppable in this fight, he looks like a force of nature, the fluidity of his coordination, his speed, his limitless stamina, and the way he simply runs through someone of the class of De La Hoya are all simply remarkable in this fight. His hand-speed, his foot-speed, his gas tank, his combinations, his counters, his head movement and defence, his sheer will to win are all demonstrated so clearly in this fight. Manny Pacquiao was one of the greatest to have ever laced and if you want proof just watch the guy in action.

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Muhammad Ali vs. Jerry Quarry I, on Oct. 26, 1970, at Municipal Auditorium in Atlanta, scheduled for 15 rounds at heavyweight.

Ali, 29-0, is 28 years old and hasn’t fought in 3 1/2 years due to his exile for refusing induction into the U.S. military. The myth is that Ali was allowed to fight because of the Supreme Court decision in his case regarding the draft situation, but that ruling came later — a Georgia senator was able to work behind the scenes to get Muhammad licensed to fight in Atlanta and the fight was made. Muhammad weighed 213 1/2.

Quarry, 34-4-4, is rated No. 1 by Ring magazine and No. 3 by the WBA. He weighs 197 1/2. He’s won four in a row since losing to George Chuvalo and 11 of his last 13, with his other loss coming to Joe Frazier.

I’ll use the round system here as was used in the fight at the time.

1. Ali: Muhammad comes out jabbing and finds the mark with some regularity. Mixes in a few right leads, a couple of hooks and one short flurry. He also shows signs of rust, missing several punches. Quarry patiently stalks and is looking for the left hook but mostly either misses or has it blocked by Ali’s right hand.

2. Ali: More of the same, with another flurry and gliding with ease around the ring, even backing Jerry up a few times when he pounces. The jab is heavier than in the first round and is reddening the area around Quarry’s right eye. Jerry lands one really good right to the body but that’s about the only effective punch.

3. Ali: The pattern continues until Ali lands a right that badly busts Quarry open above the left eye. He bleeds a lot in the final minute of the round and Muhammad zeroes in on it and becomes emboldened as he looks for the stoppage. Quarry lasts but he’s getting chewed up.

The fight is stopped between rounds due to the cut. Jerry hops around in anger for a bit, then goes over to congratulate Ali and his corner and concedes that it’s over with.

Quarry shows his sportsmanship by making it clear after the fight that the cut was caused by a punch, not a butt (their heads really never came close to clashing that I saw) lest someone try to spin it that way. Ali reciprocates the respect by saying it might have gone 10 rounds had the cut not occurred. Good on both of them.

My card agrees with all three official cards in a 3-0 verdict for Ali. Really no way to score it otherwise.

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