Rolly exposing Tanks resume and cherrypicking - “Tank doesn’t hit that hard”

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  1. MismatchHypejob

    MismatchHypejob Active Member Full Member

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    Myth in the sense that I’ve seen people act like he’s a devastating one punch ko artist. Which is easy to do if you’re fighting small and drained opponents!
     
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  2. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    You just don’t like Tank so it’s not as if you are some honest broker of objectivity. When Floyd was 36 he was beating up Canelo who was world champion, in fact he outclassed him. No excuses will be accepted if Tank knocks Loma out and beats him as he will simply be the better man. When Tank beats Shakur and Teo I wonder what your excuse will be.
     
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  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Let me let you into a universal truth. When you are+explaining you are losing the argument. One thing I love about boxing is that when you are in squared ring the truth is revealed. When my boy Erroll Spence Jr lost to Terence Bud Crawford I was disappointed but I made no excuses as regards, the car crash, eye injury etc because Erroll makes no excuses either. Rather he has regathered himself will challenge Fundora for the title. If successful he will fight Bud again.
     
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  4. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    I don't dislike Tank per se - I dislike hype narratives around any fighter that's getting more credit than I think they're due.

    I especially dislike said hypejobs claiming to be special when they have a lot still to prove.

    Floyd was a legit ATG, his resume didn't hang on the Canelo fight, you'd barely notice if it was removed.

    He will be better than the aged out 36-37 year old version he beats, if that happens.

    It'd still be his best win by a long way... But it won't be nearly as good as if he'd fought him and won several years back.

    Shakur is another fighter who's overhyped for what he's actually done - but, like Tank, looks like he's potentially the real deal... I just expect them to prove it.

    With Lopez, we'll see - IF Tank actually takes that fight whilst Teo is still active and performing well (and without somehow inserting pathetic rehydration clauses), it'd go a long way to proving that the current hype is for good reason... It's a big "if", though.
     
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  5. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Floyd already admitted this in an interview years ago, so it’s indisputable, Tank ducked Loma at his best, and it was intentional… whether he or “his team” is to blame is another subject…

    Was that a bad decision? I don’t know, it depends on the criteria.. Tanks one of the very biggest stars in the game now and one of the very few boxers who is a household name in the US…
     
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  6. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    When you're talking to people who are either incapable or uninterested in listening to reasonable arguments/explanations, you're losing... Because you're dealing with either a brain-dead fanboi or a troll.

    I'm hoping you're neither, but it's starting to look a little bit that way.

    Indeed... But that doesn't mean you can talk unjustifiable nonsense until proven wrong.

    If you engage with reality and back primarily the guys who proved it (properly), you'll be right more often than you will if you just back favourites blindly.
     
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  7. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    Do yourself a favor and ignore this fool. He changed his name for a reason. He was a laughing stock and a joke. He will soon be talking to himself again.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Obviously Twink has been shamelessly ducking Loma like a little female dog for seven years. despite the fact he's bigger than Loma with a longer reach and the fight would've been in his country with a home ref and three home judges where Loma will have to KO him to come away with a draw. Every boxing fan on the planet knows this because it's completely undeniable. You don't get to shamelessly duck someone for that length of time, openly admit you're ageing them out, refer to them as an ''old man'' five years ago and expect it to go unnoticed. Twink never wanted a goddamn thing to do with a prime Loma because he knew damn well he would get his ass whooped.

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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Twink has only fought two legit reigning world champions who were champions at the weight he fought them at when he fought them. That's an absolutely shocking stat for the supposed ''face of boxing,'' a ''P4P star'' and a 11 year pro

    1. Pedraza. Very good win and one which is still his best win to this day

    2. LSC who was a 126 pounder who had only fought at 130 once and that was against a fellow 126 pounder who was 2-2 on his previous 4 fights. So LSC won the vacant WBA belt in his only fight at 130 against a career 126 pounder

    Of the 10 world champs he's fought

    2 reigning champs who were champs at the weight he fought them at: Pedraza and LSC

    3 champs dragged up in weight, only 1 of them a champ at the time.: Cuellar, Ruiz, Hector Garcia

    2 shot to hell champs: Cristobal Cruz and Gamboa

    4 champs who were champs at lower weights. It could be 6 because whilst LSC was technically a champ at 130 he had only fought at that weight once and it was against a career 126 pounder and Twink was a natural 135 pounder who really struggled to make 130

    3 future champs: Rolly, Isaac Cruz and Barrios

    How was Rolly nominated to contest the vacant 140 title at 135 when he was coming off a KO loss at 135?

    And he only won the belt due to pure corruption when the 40 y/o gimme opponent was robbed blind by the corrupt ref

    Cruz won his world title off of Rolly

    And Barrios was upgraded to full WBC 147 champ recently after winning the vacant interim title against Ugas who was coming off a brutal stoppage loss to Spence

    And how did Barrios earn that shot at the vacant interim title? By going 1-2 in his last 3, the losses a KO one at 140 to Twink, then getting shutout and schooled by an inactive Keithy who hadn't fought in 2.5 years, the win against a nobody

    And some of them were WBA regular champs which he was in two of the weight classes he's fought in until recently when he was upgraded to full champ at 135 after Haney vacated his belts

    In complete contrast, Loma has fought 13 world champs in 21 fights (a crazy stat) only one of whom was a regular champ

    8 reigning world champions in 21 fights, 7 of whom at the weight he fought them

    11 world champions who were champs at the weight he fought them at

    7 world champions who were champs in his third division, all way bigger and heavier than him and it would be 8 if Ortiz wasn't robbed against Teo

    Only one champ who was dragged up in weight and they were P4P#4 at the time

    Walters who Loma fought at 130 was a champ at 126 but he'd already moved up to 130 six months before Loma fought him and had failed to make 126 when he lost his 126 belt on the scales a year before

    4 future champs albeit some were champs at lower weights or the weight he fought them at prior to that

    No shot champs or really past prime champs

    And 10 of the 13 champs were bigger than him, 9 way bigger, and 2 of the others weighed 0.5lbs and 1lb less than him respectively. He's only fought one champ who he was a lot bigger than: Rigo and 9 who were a lot bigger than him

    And he fought them all on the road or in their backyards with zero home refs or judges which is the complete antithesis of Twink and every single other current champ from the US

    And remember that Twink ducked back down to his 2nd weight class after cherrypicking the WBA regular belt off a paper champ who he slapped a rehydration clause on because those guys up at 140 were ''too big'' for him (says the guy who ''KOs HWs in the gym''), whereas, conversely, Loma not only hung around in his 3rd weight class, a weight class full of giants way bigger than him against whom he's routinely giving away more or way more weight and reach than Twink was against Barrios, and when he moved up there he went straight for the

    #1 ranked Linares who was the WBA champ

    WBO champ Pedraza in New York (essentially a home match for Pedraza) despite it being his first fight back seven months after shoulder surgery. He took on Twink's best ever win as a tune up when not near 100%

    In his next fight he would've fought IBF champ Commey but he accommodated his mandatory Crolla instead after Commey pulled out injured

    Then Loma fought Campbell in his backyard for the vacant WBC title to unify three of the belts

    Then in his very next fight he fought IBF champ Teofimo in his backyard

    So Loma literally went after all the legit champs and belts in his first 5 fights at the weight, would've been in his first 4 had Commeny not pulled out injured, and they were all way bigger than him

    And even after losing to Teo he didn't pull a Twink and duck back down in weight. He fought Nakatani who gave Teo hell and was coming off that very competitive loss to Teo and a KO win over the highly regarded Felix Verjado

    Then he fought Commey who was another real champ at 135

    Jermaine Ortiz who was robbed blind against Teo and who should be the current WBO champ at 140

    Then Haney another real champ at 135. Undisputed no less

    Then he fought another former undisputed champ at 135 in Kambosos in his last fight

    All of whom are way way bigger than him, between 2-4 divisions bigger but not a single catchweight or rehydration clause

    Twink had one fight at 140, cherrypicking the fake champ Barrios, said screw this these guys are too big for me, and ducked back down in weight. He never fought 1 real world champion in his 3rd weight, Loma fought 8 and it should be 9 because Ortiz clearly beat Teo

    What Loma and Twink have been doing is night and day for goodness sake.

    This is why you don't take Twink fans seriously. They don't deserve to ever be taken so. They hate on a true legacy fighter who doesn't duck or dodge, try to stack the deck in their favour, try to weaken opponents at the negotiating table, and who constantly sought and seeks out the best and fights his opponents on the road or in their backyards on a deck heavily stacked in their favour

    In short, a fighter who embodies everything right and great about the sport

    Whilst they simultaneously worship at the altar of a fighter who is literally the complete antithesis of Loma, who does the complete opposite of what Loma does, and who embodies the worst aspect of the sport
     
  10. deadACE

    deadACE Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My post was actually referring to boxers using bs excuses, nothing to do with Tank. Clowns like you who cry over boxers don't realise how pathetic you look. Your emotionally invested in somebody who has no idea you exist. Your a joke.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Tank was not huge for the weight, Cruz wanted the fight in the first place so this is irrelevant
    How does he drain fighters when they were already fighting at the weight ? Rehydration clause prevents weight bullying so It's nothing but an excuse
     
  12. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Rehydration clauses are also legal and part of the sport and that's the problem
     
  13. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    If they were already fighting at the weight (ie: making weight and rehydrating) then they're a known quantity - you can judge them on past performances.

    Rehydration clauses make these guys then fight worse than normal.


    I don't like weight bullying, but surely there's no way to defend rehydration clauses as anything other than cowardly.
     
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  14. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    It very much is a problem.

    But unlike weight bullying, where a fighter decides whether to fight based on whether they think they can win.
    Rehydration clauses are all about the bigger money fighter playing diva for maximum advantage.
     
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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    But in the end the draining always occurs it's just how much weight they put back on. If you're putting on more than 10 pounds you shouldn't even be in the weight class truth be told. Both weight bullying and rehydration clause are legal and 2 sides of the same coin that's the issue. Pacquiao and Mayweather were no different