Would Crawford be just another Buddy McGirt or Jose Luis Lopez in another era.

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  1. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Crawford has consistently been ranked top5 p4p but does that have more to do with his skills or era. Buddy McGirt and Jose Luis Lopez were great fighters but feel short compared to their contemporaries. Would Crawford be seen in a lesser light had he fought in the 90s?
     
  2. Smokin Bert

    Smokin Bert Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Very possibly.
     
  3. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think he's better than both of them especially Lopez but it's hard to say because while he's looked top P4P material his opposition hasn't been actually stellar. But you can only beat who's in front of you and he has done so in dominant fashion up to now. I guess we'll find out if he steps up in weight to fight Canelo as has been reported. If he's the real deal then he beats Canelo or at least is ultra competitive with him.
     
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  4. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a stretch
     
  5. greynotsoold

    greynotsoold Boxing Addict

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    Buddy McGirt was a world champion in 2 weight classes. What did he fall short of? What else should he have done?
     
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  6. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Buddy was tough and one of my favorites at the time. He had left shoulder surgery and was never the same afterwards. His big left hook was never the same. Buddy was tough but was never at the level Crawford is at. Crawford also has better size and bigger punches.

    Even though Crawford has fought sporadically over the past few years, he’s beaten the best at every class he’s been in. That’s something you can’t say about most modern fighters. We have guys like Tank Davis who go through weight classes having never fought top three opponents. You can’t say that about Crawford.
     
  7. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yeah... but there are a lot of asterisk associated with Crawfords opponents
     
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  8. FreddieGibbs

    FreddieGibbs Active Member Full Member

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    You beat who you can when you can
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    They tried to lock me up in an insane asylum when I said Jose Luis Lopez would knock Crawford out. Especially if Jose actually took training seriously for the fight. His chin was pure titanium (Brit Level even) and he could punch holes in castle walls.

    I have zero doubt that Crawford would hit the canvas at least once against the untrained pot-smoking beach bum version of Jose, let alone one who trained like he's supposed to.
     
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  10. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    MMMM Jose Luis Lopez was in the class of Shawn Porter, Vernon, Ike, and Quartey. Crawford is at least in the same class as Pernell, Oscar, Tito, Pryor, and Tszyu
     
  11. BoxingIQ

    BoxingIQ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Agreed but it doesn't change the fact that his biggest test is about to be against a gut who only has 10 professional fights at 154 (Craqford's 4th weight class). Israil isn't even the best at 154 (Fundora, Virgil, Tszyu, and Spence would all beat him).
     
  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Nah I wouldn't say that. And anyway, styles make fights.

    The only fighter I'm confident Crawford would beat out of all the fighters you mentioned there is Porter and there's no disgrace in that or disgrace or disrespect intended. Crawford's an excellent fighter

    Ike and Quartey?

    If Jose actually took training seriously he would've been a certified killer
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The problem with Jose Luis Lopez he didn't lift the pace enough and fought too much in 1st gear without going through the gears. He should've knocked out James Page flooring him twice and rocking him numerous times but let him off the hook. Against Quartey he just stood in front of him for like 7 or 8 rounds taking a hammering from Quartey's jab, again had he started a bit sooner and gone through the gears more he probably could've stopped Quartey aswell.

    You're also not wrong about Lopez's chin he took almost 400 punches from Quartey who is a big puncher at Welterweight and Lopez was never fazed.

    As for Crawford i think Lopez would have his moments but again would lose a competitive decision because he simply doesn't have the workrate. But then again Crawford is untested against big punchers and Lopez would be by far the most dangerous puncher he has fought.
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Buddy McGirt did fine the problem was he run into prime versions of Meldrick Taylor, Pernell Whitaker. He also went through long stages of his career not having big fights and he had chronic shoulder problems.

    As for Crawford we simply don't know what his actual level is because he hasn't really fought an upper echelon guy apart from Spence who was compromised from the car crash and inactivity.

    Crawford has good achievements but his opposition is so-so, and whilst he does look impressive in regards to the eye test we need to see him beat more top guys to form a real opinion of him against former greats of the past.
     
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  15. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Crawford wouldve competed w the Fab 4. That's how good he is. He has had a combination of bad luck and entire promotional outfits outright ducking him at points in his career. Hes a 2 weight undisputed champion and a champion in 3 different weight classes, going for his 4th weight class in August against yet another undefeated opponent.

    Bud wouldve been live versus any WW in history but wouldve rightfully been underdog against some.
     
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