Worst chin among HW world champions?

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Who had the glassiest mandibles among HW champions?

  1. Herbie Hide

    12 vote(s)
    41.4%
  2. Tommy Morrison

    2 vote(s)
    6.9%
  3. Oleg Maskaev

    4 vote(s)
    13.8%
  4. Floyd Patterson

    2 vote(s)
    6.9%
  5. Bruce Seldon

    4 vote(s)
    13.8%
  6. Someone else

    5 vote(s)
    17.2%
  1. Totentanz.

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    Remind me of any other heavy punchers that they faced? Akinwande would've gotten knocked out against Lewis if he didn't keep clinching, and Damiani didn't face any other solid punchers.
     
  2. NoNeck

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    Do you know who Du Plooy was? Never too late to learn.
     
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  3. Man_Machine

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    Just a theory, but I think a lot of the confusion around Lewis/Tyson might stem from conflating the various court cases Lewis was involved in. For example, Lewis had previously had to sue Rahman to get him in the ring for an immediate rematch and I think some people, for whatever reason, believe Lewis sued Tyson for similar ends.

    In reality, it was Don King being sued for 'Tortious Interference', which comprised some serious allegations. Tyson was named as a co-defendant for an alleged straightforward breach. But I think it was generally understood that this was just about reclaiming the money lost - both actual costs incurred and projected earnings.

    It was really nothing to do with forcing the fight to actually happen.
     
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  4. Totentanz.

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    I omitted Du Plooy from the list because his knockouts aren't of note, with his best opposition coming from journeyman or has been champions. Jaco, Tillis, Broad, Pritchard, Weaver (Who he still went 1-1 with)... His best win is maybe Everett Bigfoot Martin, who was just off of winning a decision over Bert Cooper, before going on a 9 bout losing streak. Du Plooy even got sparked out against a past his best Snipes.
     
  5. NoNeck

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    Ok, a guy who knocks out Weaver and Broad around the same time doesn’t have power. Got it.
     
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    Weaver was prone to getting sparked out early if you rushed him, it happened with Dokes and we don't consider him a hard puncher, not to mention that he was past his best. Broad was past it as well, he got his head blasted off by Ruddock in a single round during his next bout.
     
  7. NoNeck

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    Speaking of Ruddock, what happened when he fought this supposedly chinless and faded version of Weaver?
     
  8. Totentanz.

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    I never said Weaver was chinless, go back and read my posts.
    On top of that, the Weaver that Ruddock fought was superior that Du Plooy fought twice and went 1-1 with, there was nearly a two year difference between those matches, and he was already starting to fade when going in against Ruddock. He got knocked out against Pinklon and Smith before then, and had his last hurrah for a while against Williams. He was far removed from the prime Weaver that we saw nine years before his match with Du Plooy.
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    I reckon you are right. Lewis has a lot of detractors and plenty would be happy to grasp what suited.
     
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    It only happened one time in his prime and it was massively controversial. The strong view of many was that the fix was in with Dokes for probably the first time in his professional career going flat out straight up. Now this was somewhat understandable as Weaver did have a reputation for being a slow starter but many felt Joey Curtis was in the loop as well.

    Dokes did the same in the rematch and after looking the goods for some seconds found Weaver absolutely bombing back. It was a great round actually.

    When you say past his best you surely aren't referring to Dokes are you?
     
  11. Totentanz.

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    No, past his best when fighting Du Plooy.
     
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    Did you ever see Tony Anthony poleaxe him from behind after the bell? It was the fight before the Thomas fight. I'm not sure Weaver's durability fully recovered. Pinklon knocked him out with a right hand next fight and Pink seldom dropped anyone with a right hand. After that even Carl Williams stunned him early before Weaver's power and Carl's weak chin bailed him out. Even going into the Williams fight the boxing fraternity thought he was close to done. I take little heed of anything post Thomas.
     
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    I haven't seen that fight, I'll check it out, but it does make sense. Weaver didn't go all too fast against guys like Holmes, Tate, Tillis, Mercado, and Coetzee only to get sparked our by Dokes in a fluke, and then had his durability decline quickly after that.
     
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    It's really hard to find. I think last time i put it up in here it was on a clip prior to the main event, it had been an earlier fight. Let me boxrec it. Ah it was on the Holmes - Smith undercard. That particular extended youtube vid may have been taken down, i'll have a look later.
     
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    I look forward to it.
     
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