Saddest moment in boxing

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  1. KO_King

    KO_King Horizontal Heavyweight Full Member

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    Three for me.. two in real time, one watching years later.
    Ali v Holmes - I wasn't even born at this point. But I was a massive Ali fan and didn't watch this one for years. Almost wish I didn't.
    Tyson v Williams - I am a Brit and was supposed to cheer on Williams. But I always liked Tyson. Even though I knew he was done before Lewis, he'd always managed to keep his head above water against the non elite. It was clear here he was absolutely done.
    Jones Jnr v Tarver 2 - Roy suffered worse losses. But I was a a huge RJJ fan. He was declining in Tarver 1. But I was devastated here. He was finished - and falling fast - at top level.
     
  2. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Ali V Holmes hard to watch an over the hill Ali already showing strong signs of Parkinsons disease against a Young prime Holmes......Very hard to watch a fight that should have never been made.!!!
     
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  3. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Seek help, you have FDS.
     
  4. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Every therapist has had to turn me down. I'm too far gone.
     
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  5. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    El Feroz being stopped by De La Hoya.

    Hagler losing to Leonard
     
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  6. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Once again Margarito was NOT "caught with plaster in his wraps" EVER!! There was no plaster never was. Go check up what you are saying, because its all pure Bull Feces.
    Mosley WAS caught out using Peds he claimed he passed 2 lie detector tests proving he was innocent but then BALCO showed up with his name & signature on the receipts & the Peds basher had to come clean. Plus he was juiced to the gills for that debacle with Margarito but was he ever punished ??? No because he was a US fighter.
    Ask Pacquaio if Margarito's power had disappeared . I was at that fight in Texas & stood not 6 feet away from Pac when he said after the fight " I was lucky to survive that fight Margarito was too big too strong I have never been hit so hard before" A few mins later he collapsed in pain from being beaten badly & was taken to hospital due to the damaged ribs Margarito had beaten so badly
    Learn the truth before you make these falsehoods my friend don't believe all the BS you hear
     
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  7. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    On a less serious note....

    Martinez losing to Cotto
    Kovalev losing to Safar, Canelo and Alvarez
    Chavez losing to Wiley
    Margarito losing to Cotto
    Pacquiao losing to Ugas
    RJJ losing Maccarinelli, and I like Enzo
    Ali losing to Holmes
    Rios-Alvarado III
    Marquez-Vazquez IV
    Donaire losing to Magdaleno
     
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  8. G Man

    G Man Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Iron Mike Tyson laying down submissively after a non-punch from Kevin McBride.
     
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  9. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ali - Holmes, just a tad too early for me to remember if I watched it live. I was 6 and didn't get hardcore into watching boxing until I was 9.
    I do remember watching a fight card and hearing them call Ali 'The Greatest', I was confused and said to my dad " but Larry Holmes beat Ali" at the time :risas3:. Years later when I watched it, very sad and Howard Cossell commentary really defined it appropriately.
    Big ones for me are : Fenech robbery v Nelson, Fenech being stopped in the rematch. Holiday stopping Fenech. Kostya Tszyu losing to Hatton, more recently GGG draw and loss to Clenelo.
     
  10. Dangerwood84

    Dangerwood84 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I remember it. I was a big Leonard fan but didn't see the fight live and even though Ray was way past it, it was pretty shocking to witness.
     
  11. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I dont mind when someone has a different opinion about something, anything really. But when that "fake news" opinion is used to spread DANGEROUS misinformation - you need to be shamed.

    Here is what actually happened:

    The hand wraps worn by Antonio Margarito before his fight against Shane Mosley on Jan. 24 in Los Angeles contained calcium and sulfur, two ingredients of plaster of Paris, according to the Los Angeles Times.​

    The Times cited a report from a California Department of Justice laboratory dated March 19.​

    https://www.ringtv.com/120715-margaritos-wraps-were-loaded/

    Here is Margarito's trainer, Javier Capetillo, apologizing 18 months - AFTER HE RECEIVED A LIFETIME SUSPENSION IN THE U.S. (although was somehow granted a 2nd trainer license 6 years later)

    "I know he did what he had to do once my license was taken. I don’t blame him for moving on. I still think of him like my son, and my love for him is not going to go away because we were separated. None of this was his fault. I’m responsible for everything that happened because I’m the one who wrapped his hands. It was my mistake.”​

    Although Capetillo said he deserved the California commission’s punishment, he still feels that Margarito’s management team, headed by Sergio Diaz and Francisco Espinoza, could have supported him more during and after the hearing.​

    https://www.ringtv.com/124655-capetillo-breaks-silence-apologizes-for-hand-wrap-scandal/

    Here is the actual investigation and its findings after the event:

    Before the contest with Mosley, Capetillo was wrapping Margarito’s hands while four Commission inspectors and Mosley’s trainer observed the process. After Capetillo finished wrapping Margarito’s right hand, Mosley’s trainer asked the inspectors to physically inspect a premade gauze “knuckle pad” insert that Capetillo was about to wrap over Margarito’s left hand. The inspectors found that the inner layers of the pad were discolored and that the pad felt harder than it should have. In a report prepared after the inspection, Commission Inspector Che Guevara described the gauze pad removed from Margarito’s left hand as “dirty-looking” and smeared with a white substance that looked like plaster and was hard to the touch.​

    Mosley’s trainer then asked the inspectors to examine the gauze insert in Margarito’s already-wrapped right hand. Margarito insisted there was nothing in the right hand wrapping, and held his hand out saying, “Touch it. Feel it. Go ahead. There is nothing in it.” The inspectors ordered the wrapping removed and found a similar improperly hardened pad, which they confiscated.​

    In a written decision issued on March 31, 2009, the Commission “found that the knuckle pads removed from Margarito’s hand wraps before the Mosley fight on January 24, 2009, had been adulterated with a white plasterlike substance,” wrote the court. “The Commission concluded that the use of adulterated knuckle pads by a boxer seriously endangers the boxer’s opponent and gives the boxer an unfair advantage that causes discredit to boxing. The Commission further concluded that ‘because [Margarito] violated Commission Rule 323 there is sufficient cause for revocation of [Margarito’s] boxing license pursuant to Commission Rule 390 and Business and Professions Code section 18841.’”​

    https://sportslitigationalert.com/court-affirms-commissions-decision-to-revoke-boxers-license/

    Here is MARGARITO HIMSELF confessing and reporting about collected dirty wraps:

    ‘No, no,’ Margarito said, denying that his gloves were loaded. ‘There was always someone from the [Nevada] commission watching the wraps.’​

    Margarito said, to this day, he’s uncertain that there were plaster inserts in his wraps before the Mosley bout. He said he ‘doesn’t believe’ Capetillo intended to cheat.​

    ‘I didn’t see any difference when they took the wraps away, but then everyone, including the Mosley camp, had their hands on them, and one came back dirty and one was clean,’ Margarito said. ‘I don’t know what would’ve happened if they hadn’t [unwrapped] my hands. I can tell you that was never my intention to do that, and I’ve never seen it happen before.​

    ‘Honestly, I don’t even know why I’d have something like that in my hands. I think I could’ve broke my hand so easily with that.’​

    At the commission hearing, Margarito explained he merely raised his hands up for Capetillo to wrap and didn’t closely observe the process.​

    https://www.latimes.com/archives/bl...margarito-addresses-hand-wraps-scandal-future

    Here is former boxing champion and HOF trainer Robert Garcia talking about the event:

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    Let me be clear, you @C.J. are a scoundrel and piece of ****. Misreporting something is one thing but to openly lie and deny very, very, very serious illegal and horribly dangerous conduct is something altogether different. Margarito couldve killed someone and that literally happens in boxing...far too often as we all know. Nobody can go back and rewrite history when a fighter/trainer put their worldly desires above another person's life...and you defending this ****.

    Shame on you. And grow up.

    Pac started his career 8 divisions below 154 where fought Margarito (I believe at 150ish CW)...no **** he had trouble. Pac also had trouble with Jeff Horn...a huge WW who also had height/reach/soze advantage...and neither Horn nor post-handwrap Margarito had a lick of power.
     
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  12. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Weight drained 43 year old Mundine getting KO’d by Jeff Horn.

    Lomachenko getting robbed against Haney

    Canelo waiting for GGG to be 40 and above his natural weight to beat him legit. Although lets face it he was probably still juiced.
     
  13. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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  14. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    Pacquiao losing to Ugas..

    yeah I know, Pacquiao surprised Barrera in the same way..

    but watching him get peppered by a last minute replacement..(when it should have been Crawford)

    everything about Covid sucked.
     
  15. Lesion of Doom

    Lesion of Doom Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The deaths and maimings obviously are the worst. I have watched a few live on TV and it's horrible.

    Other than that, would say old fighters getting battered by guys they've have schooled just a few years earlier. Ali vs Holmes it the most infamous, but there are countless others. Boxing doesn't give an old fighter a soft landing. A cruelty of the sport.
     
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