Who is the P4p #1 in your opinion?

Usyk
Inoue
Crawford

 

Usyk clearly. And it's not even up for debate.

 

Usyk
Inoue
Canelo
Crawford
Bivol

It starts getting murky after the top 5.

 

I've got Inoue personally but I could switch it to Usyk depending on what day I'm having honestly. Loma is close behind and Crawford is a fair distance away from all 3 of them. Figuring out the order between Ioka and Beterbiev is tricky though.

 

Crawford for me but totally acceptable if Usyk or Inoue are the more popular opinion,all three are certainly the stand outs at this present time .

 

You confused me a bit. I thought the idea of pound for pound is that if they were all the same size, who would win. Seems like by what you are saying that Inoue should be the answer.

 

Naoya Inoue quite clearly

Crawford has the skills but feasts on old and shot fighters

And when Inoue has a 50/50 fight with someone as terrible as shot to pieces Derek Chisora, let me know. And no, legendary HOF multiple division champion Nonito Donaire is not Chisora-level

 

Usyk, passes the eye test and also has a great resume.

The rest of them also pass the eye test and have decent resumes for the most part, but not enough to separate them from one another..

And honestly, most everyone else’s resume kinda sucks really. Their fans will type entire posts trying to convince you about how their resumes are good, mentioning amateur records and whatever else, especially in the case of Inoue, but if their opponents were actually very good, that wouldn’t be necessary. Inoues best win is an old Donaire… yes he was going through a career resurgence, but it doesn’t change the fact that he was still a decade past his best…

Canelo obviously has a great resume, but not in recent years.

Edit: I should add Inoue and Crawford are CLEARLY 2 and 3, and what order is debatable… What I stated above made it seem like they didn’t separate themselves from the rest, but of course they do.

 

Chisora was 38lbs heavier than Usyk.

How would Inoue stack up against a 155-160lb fighter with heavy fists and a pretty solid chin?

Would you be unimpressed if Inoue were to find it difficult but ultimately win clearly on points against, say, Prograis?
Because fightnight weights, Usyk was outweighed more by Delboy than Inoue would be by Prograis.

P4P isn't about how you look fighting at a given weightclass - it's about how performances compare for the actual fighting weight of the fighters in question... And unlike others on this list, Usyk's actually beaten legit world-class fighters who outweighed him by 20-30lbs and more.

 

Usyk has completed the whole boxing game in his opponents backyard, whilst having to go up 30lbs and be at a 40lbs deficit. And whilst his country is at war.

Anyone who says it's not Usyk. Has an ulterior motive. You can't possibly not have him number 1

Inoue is in the tiny weightclasses where there is a new weightclass every 2 pounds and the standards are low. Most of the best boxing countries don't have any boxers that small. If there was a new weightclass every few pounds up in Usyks weightclasses he'd be about a 10 weight division champ lol.

 

Naoya Inoue

 

It's really just about how you perform regardless of weight. You and others are trying to use "weight" as a reason to say Usyk deserves to be P4P #1 largely based on the fact that he's being outweighed. P4P isn't about how much more (or less) your opponent weights than you. It's how the fighters who are being rated performs. Weight (of the fighter, or of the opponent) really has nothing to do with it. It's about skill and how you perform.

 

Canelo imho deserve to be ahead of Inoue and Crawford. Inoue was knocked down in his last fight (and yes that matters if we're rating P4P). Defense is a big factor when it comes to P4P. Inoue is impressive but he's not as defensively sound as Canelo. It's debatable who is a more dangerous puncher. Crawford hasn't fought in nearly a year, he's just not active enough. The Spence win is hard to gauge given how horrible Spence looked and the fact that he's been slurring his words for years since the car crash.

Canelo's win over Munguia was very impressive, his win over Jermell Charlo was very impressive, regardless of how Jermell fought, regardless of him coming up in weight. Bud was impressive vs Spence, but do you really think that version of Spence was better than Jermell Charlo or Munguia?