In world title fights Joshua has been willing to fight top up and coming fighters

Yeah and many names are fraudulent. Martin is absolute crap so why even mention him. Won a vacant title without even fighting for it. aj lost to Ruiz too and couldn't stop him in the rematch. Not even sure Ruiz was ranked beforehand

 

AJ is a bum and pin head will chin him

 

"Joshua never avoided anyone"

He avoided Fury, Wilder and Ortiz at various points:

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...ucking-of-fury-in-bombshell-interview.694541/

https://www.boxingforum24.com/threa...d-the-wilder-whyte-wbc-saga-explained.711576/

His last four fights have been Franklin, Helenius, Wallin and Ngannou, not top competition.

Pretty much all boxers will avoid certain opponents for one reason or another, Joshua's no exception. And big money A-side boxers like Joshua will be protected by matchmakers, as well as other officials.

"Fury refused to rematch Klitschko"

Who he'd already beaten easily and didn't have any motivation to fight again. Klitschko himself failed to rematch several boxers (often those who'd beaten him) but I've never seen you accuse him of ducking.

 

It only matters to me when I rate them, my personal opinion.

Ruiz and Martin suck, but Ruiz actually beat joshua. Aj has Parker and Dubois soon, but the Dubois win isn't going to age well I'm just warning you now.

Now that you mention it. Aj probably has fought about as many young guys as Fury probably more which is pretty sad because the bulk of that resume is old past it men, and even then it's not as stacked as it's made out to be as i skim it down currently

Old Klitschko

Old Povetkin

Parker

Green Whyte ?

 

But that doesn't change the fact that Martin is complete trash and didn't directly deserve the title anyway, the fact you mention it at all shows how desperate the narrative is. He has Parker and lost to Ruiz. He will have Dubois soon, but it's not going to age well.

 

I'll admit I read the first page then started to skim.

I'm going off the cuff, if you want a link pop a tab and search the words I typed for you. I might mis-remember, but I doubt I'm as far off as these kids throwing around Ring Mag links trying to figure out where Martin was when Josh fought him.

Glaz was the mando. The title fight was Glaz's. Martin was made the other side of the title fight without anyone really crying about it because most y'all were crying about Fury instead. So to reframe Glaz like he was a no body that Martin decided to fight is a bit shitty. He was higher rated than Martin at the time. He was the veteran, Charles was the no need feeder everyone thought was going to lose.

Glaz hurt his knee, Charles thought he broke it with a jab. Martin became a star because he's funny.

Joshua was scheduled to fight Takam as a title elim to establish Martin's first mandatory. Joshua was rated below Glaz, below Martin. Glaz gets knocked off, Martin becomes champion, Joshua and Takam both move up rates and are scheduled for the title elim.

Martin calls out Joshua. Not the other way around. Hearn says Joshua is not ready for the defenses that come with the title. Martin points out the money Joshua is already worth and makes it clear he wants Joshua and is offering Joshua a chance to skip Takam to fight Martin. Wilder chimes in and says if Joshua don't pay Martin he'll fight Martin for pennies and steal that belt. Hearn gets the Josh-Martin deal made, Takam takes step aside money, Joshua floors Martin, and after Joshua's made a reign he does the favor and gives Takam a fight.

Martin wasn't an upstart. He was the older and more established boxer.

 

Holmes probably was notorious for picking on green undefeated fighters.

The reason for that is the way careers are structured. A lot of champs only get to the front of the line right before 30 if they get there in their 20s at all.

 

The question doesn't mean anything when he lost to Ruiz and Martin hasn't beaten anybody. "Oh Martin had a belt that's a good win over a young fighter" lol. The bulk of his resume is still old past it men. People even tried to bring up Pulev.

Really all he has is parker and Dubois soon, keep in mind ajs career will be over at 37. Ruiz wasn't even rated first time but at least he didn't lose to Ortiz and bum kownacki unlike Martin.

Also you're supposed to fight the top contenders, but for some reason aj has been dealing with the likes of Ngannou, Wallin, Helanius and Franklin