the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

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  1. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Just stumbled on this wild 2 round super-featherweight war:
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  2. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Katsunari “Lightning Kid” Takayama vs Go Odaira:
    1. 10-9 Lightning, very close but Takayama gets the better of the round.
    2. 10-9 Go, Go counters effectively and rocks Takayama a couple times.
    3. 10-10, very close, Takayama is the aggressor but gets countered a fair bit.
    4. 10-9 Go, another very close round but Go catches and hurts Takayama with some clean counters to steal the round.
    5. 10-9 Lightning. Takayama just edges it with his agression.
    6. 10-9 Lightning. Takayama really takes the fight to Go and lands the best punches of the fight so far.
    7. Takayama backs Go up onto the ropes and just starts whaling on him. He must’ve thrown something like 60 punches in those 20 something seconds. Great finish to a competitive fight.
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  3. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hogan (Kid) Bassey v Carmelo Costa non-title (NY rounds scoring)

    Round 1: Bassey
    Round 2: Bassey
    Round 3: Bassey (scored 2 knockdowns)
    Round 4: Bassey
    Round 5: Even
    Round 6: Bassey
    Round 7: Bassey
    Round 8: Costa
    Round 9: Even
    Round 10: Bassey

    Total: 7-1-2 Bassey (actual scores: 8-2, 6-3-1 and 5-4-1 all for Bassey)

    This bout shows a real contrast on how one scores a fight. To be clear, Costa really knew how to use that ring. However, I felt a little more on the defensive side. Had he produced a bit more in attack he could have been a formidable fighter. This fight is how I envisioned the Dick Tiger-Joey Archer fight to be conducted. However, Archer also knew the benefit of hit and not be hit, whereas I think Costa - for many parts of the fight - relied solely on not be hit. He did start engaging late in the fight, which the crowd enjoyed, but too little too late on my card but not on some of the official cards. Perhaps Costa was a bit gun-shy after the 3rd round knockdowns. Still, I always enjoy these old Cavalcade of Sports fights.
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Orlin Norris vs Greg Page

    1 Close round i gave it to Norris for hurting Page with a right hand.
    2 Page
    3 Page
    4 Norris
    5 Norris
    6 Norris
    7 Norris
    8 Norris
    9 Norris
    10 Norris
    11 Norris
    12 Norris

    118-110 Norris

    A few things to note about this fight Greg Page was at his lightest weight ever in his professional career at 220 pounds Gene Hackman also commentated for a bit and seemed to know his boxing.

    Page started off reasonably and the first 5 rounds were competitive after that Norris took over and pretty much controlled the fight. Despite Page looking fit he obviously wasn't the same fighter as 6 years ago and Norris was at his peak so pretty much he was too sharp for Page overall. It also didn't help Page had only fought 1 round in just over 2 years and he didn't seem to have the energy levels to compete with Norris in the 2nd half of fight.

    Overall it was an ok fight nothing special but Norris showed some good skills.
     
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  5. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks. Not sure how much film there is out there of Bassey but this makes me want to check it out.
     
  6. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I would love to find either of his fights with Davey Moore. I’ll bet they were wars.
     
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  7. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Juan Francisco Estrada v Jesse Rodriguez (super flyweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Rodriguez (if anyone scored that Even, that's OK too)
    Round 2: 10-9 Rodriguez
    Round 3: 10-9 Rodriguez
    Round 4: 10-8 Rodriguez (scores a knockdown)
    Round 5: 10-9 Rodriguez
    Round 6: 10-9 Estrada (scores a knockdown)
    Round 7: Rodriguez KOs Estrada

    Total through 6 completed rounds: 59-54 Rodriguez (actual scores: 58-54 Rodriguez, 56-56 Even and 57-56 for Estrada)

    Wow! And by saying wow, I'm referring to the scores of Javier Camacho and Robert Tapper who scored it for Estrada and Even, respectively. I didn't think it was that tough a fight to score. The only two rounds that I thought could be disputed were the first, which I felt was very close and wouldn't have a problem with someone scoring even, and the 6th, which I only gave to Estrada by a 10-9 because, outside of the knockdown, he was under heavy pressure by Rodriguez. Aside from the scores, it was a real changing of the guard type of fight. Rodriguez' punches are so sharp and is unbelievable at this stage of the game, but it could have been a better fight with a younger Estrada or one who hasn't been out for a year and a half. I enjoyed it.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

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    Juan Francisco Estrada v Jesse Rodriguez

    Round 1 10-9 Rodriguez
    Round 2 10-9 Rodriguez
    Round 3 10-9 Rodriguez
    Round 4 10-8 Rodriguez Knockdown
    Round 5 10-9 Rodriguez
    Round 6 10-9 Estrada Knockdown
    Round 7 Rodriguez Wins by KO via body shot

    58-54 Rodriguez

    Great performance from Rodriguez he's definitely a new star in the making this was a real passing of the torch moment from a former great to potentially a new great in the making.

    Two things annoyed me about this fight the commentators kept saying Estrada was bigger are they blind ? two of the judges scorecards were a disgrace.

    Estrada was one of my favourite fighters so it's sad to him lose i think the tough battles, age, inactivity, have finally caught up to him. But Rodriguez looks like a fantastic fighter so no shame in losing to him i'm also excited to see what the future holds for Rodriguez.
     
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  9. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    For the life of me I can't remember who recommended this fight and Pompey's fight with Nick Rupa, but I wanted to give them both a look-see.

    Kevin Pompey v Buck Smith (USBA welterweight title)

    Round 1: 10-9 Smith
    Round 2: 10-10 Even
    Round 3: 10-10 Even
    Round 4: 10-9 Pompey
    Round 5: 10-9 Pompey
    Round 6: 10-9 Pompey
    Round 7: 10-9 Pompey
    Round 8: 10-9 Pompey
    Round 9: 10-9 Pompey
    Round 10: 10-9 Smith
    Round 11: 10-9 Smith
    Round 12: 10-10 Even

    Total: 117-114 Pompey (actual scores: 117-111, 116-112 and 115-113 all for Pompey)

    To begin, this was like a great old-fashioned clubfight. They gave it their all and were both heavily marked up at the end. Just a good, entertaining fight. Smith should have concentrated his career on world class opponents, because he had talent but I don't believe it was fully realized with the barn-storming career he chose. Many of these rounds were close because Smith would begin each round hot and then lose steam whereas Pompey's conditioning and experience at world-class level had him waiting until Buck shot his bolt and then come on in the round. The 7th round was a prime example where Buck stunned Pompey early only for Kevin to come on and sweep the round (on my card) as Buck fatigued during the stanza. Anyways, totally enjoyed the fight.
     
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  10. Fireman Fred

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    Buck Smith had a good left hook. He showed real heart against Kirkland Laing by absorbing a pasting over 6 rounds before scoring a one punch ko of the talented Laing.

    He also fought vicious punching Olympic Gold medallist Robert Wangila (who destroyed future World champ Laurent Boudouni in the Olympic final) twice, losing a close decision after having the African puncher down before starching him in 2 in the return.

    Buck never reached those heights again but he did fight the quality Harold Brazier (who kayoed Kevin Pompey) in one of the last 15 round fights.
     
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  11. KO KIDD

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    Watched but didn’t score Wilfred Scypion vs Mustapha Hamsho. Good violent fight lots of big punches being swung by each guy plenty of give and take. Hamsho appeared to be winning I watched 7 rounds then fast forwarded to ten. Hamsho was cut and went for broke and a tired and wobbly Scypion fell in what was ruled a push then he fell thru the ropes and lost a DQ. Weird ending good scrap
     
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  12. Saintpat

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    I, for one, am grateful that Buck fought the career that he did. A real throwback — have gloves, will travel kind of guy. He’d fight a six-rounder on Friday, jump into the car and maybe have another gig on Saturday or Sunday. I’m sure he had a price for fighting upper-level guys (probably almost always on ‘Well Buck is in shape, I’m sure he can be here and the fight is in just a couple days’ notice) and fought anyone who met it pretty much.

    But in between he lived the true troubadour style boxing life that so many lived back in the earlier days of the sport when people fought as frequently as he did. Heck, Willie Pep once fought (in order) in Alabama, Canada, Florida and Vermont, haha. Talk about zig-zagging up and down the coast!

    To me, Buck is a unique character (for his day) in a sport filled with unique characters. He can proudly crank up Frank Sinatra’s ‘I Did It My Way’ and reminisce. Maybe he would have had a different career if he’d have done things differently, but I’m not sure he’d have had a better one … imagine the moments he has to cherish, the tales he has to tell, the trips he made that no one else did.
     
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  13. scartissue

    scartissue Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I get ya! And i don't disagree with you. I would have just liked to have seen more talent interspersed there and become more of a Brazier than one of the Jakubowski's.
     
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  14. Saintpat

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    ESPN showed Holyfield-Foreman tonight.

    I didn’t score it and missed a couple rounds while I was on the phone, but I thoroughly enjoyed revisiting it. Even in retrospect, Big George always seems one solid punch from turning it (and he landed a few that were pretty solid) and Evander took some opportunities to try to end it … but he couldn’t unmoor George from his center of gravity and Foreman wasn’t easily dissuaded.

    What a fun fight to watch.
     
  15. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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