If Heavyweight rankings were strictly lineal

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  1. SimonLock

    SimonLock Member Full Member

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    If the ranking rules were as follows:

    1) You can only go up in the rankings by beating someone ranked above you, in which case you take their place and everyone in between moves down by 1 place.
    2) Fighters are removed from the published rankings after 2 years of inactivity, but will be reinstated if they fight within 5 years.
    3) Fighters are removes from the rankings altogether after 5 years of inactivity

    Then I believe the current Heavyweight rankings would be as follows:

    1) Oleksandr Usyk
    2) Tyson Fury
    3) Anthony Joshua
    4) Andy Ruiz Jr
    5) Dillian Whyte
    6) Joseph Parker
    7) Zhilei Zhang
    8) Deontay Wilder
    9) Robert Helenius
    10) Ali Eren Demirezen
    11) Kacper Meyna
    12) Adam Kownacki
    13) Luis Ortiz
    14) Jared Anderson
    15) Charles Martin
    16) Joe Joyce
    17) Derek Chisora
    18) Lawrence Okolie
    19) Lukasz Rozanski
    20) Otto Wallin
     
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  2. Unique Way

    Unique Way Active Member Full Member

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    Wow, Kownacki at 12 and Szpilka at 20 is beyond awful. Worse than WBA rankings which says a lot
     
  3. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What was your start point?
     
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  4. Robotman9000

    Robotman9000 New Member Full Member

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    Ahh- Wilder has that ranking because of Stiverne, I see
     
  5. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is how rankings should work.

    Okolie, Kownacki and Meyna Bridgerweights now I thought?
     
  6. SimonLock

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    This is based on my full database of fights, so goes back in some form to the 1800s. Not fully complete obviously, and there may be mistakes, but it goes back far enough to make the current rankings fairly solid.
     
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  7. SimonLock

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    Actually Wilder is there because he beat Helenius, who beat Kownacki, who beat Martin.
     
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  8. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who knew Kownacki was such a player in the division!
    Helenius #9, Demirezen #10, and Meyna #11

    But I like it. Really interesting approach
    Have you got a script so you can punch in a date and pull out the top 20?
     
  9. SimonLock

    SimonLock Member Full Member

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    Yes, just let me know what date you want to see.
     
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  10. Finkel

    Finkel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    May 2009 would be interesting.
    Haye had moved up from Cruiserweight the year before, but had yet to face Valuev. Who was the top brother? Was Byrd still highly regarded?
    Top 3 of Wlad, Povetkin, Byrd?
     
  11. SimonLock

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    The Kownacki effect is a problem, when a poor fighter gets a good win followed by a string of losses it allows some pretty mediocre fighters to get a ranking. A bad example was when Sedreck Fields beat Shannon Briggs, then lost to every other Heavyweight boxer in the world.
     
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  12. tee_birch

    tee_birch Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Joyce also stopped Parker so the same logic has not been used with him.
     
  13. SimonLock

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    At the end of May 2009, the lineal rankings were as follows:

    1) Wladimir Klitschko
    2) Alexander Povetkin
    3) Chris Byrd
    4) Vitali Klitschko
    5) Eddie Chambers
    6) Samuel Peter
    7) James Toney
    8) Ruslan Chagaev
    9) Nikolay Valuev
    10) Larry Donald
    11) Sultan Ibragimov
    12) Evander Holyfield
    13) John Ruiz
    14) Oleg Maskaev
    15) Hasim Rahman
    16) Joseph Chingangu
    17) Osborn Machimana
    18) Corrie Sanders
    19) Shannon Briggs
    20) Siarhei Liakhovich
     
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  14. SimonLock

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    Joyce beat Parker (#13), and became the #13 ranked Heavyweight.

    When Parker beat Wilder (#7), he jumped up the rankings, but Joyce stayed where he was.

    This system doesn't look back in time at previous losses, it just works on each fight individually.
     
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    This thread has made me feel good about my life