Was Antonio Margarito innocent?

Jet fuel cant melt steel beams

 

@C.J. did you really bump a 5 year old thread to go on another rant about Margarito's handwraps a subject you've ranted about probably 10000+ times ?

This Margarito obsession really isn't healthy you need to let it go my man.

 

Innocent.

A lot of things get overlooked in this case. First and foremost, if Margarito had some sort of cement type substance in all of his fights, his knuckles would have been bleeding after 12 rounds. Second, if he was sneaking stuff into his gloves, he must have fooled a lot of trainers, including Emmanuel Steward. Not to mention a lot of state athletic commissions who should have been monitoring the wrapping of the hands, unless they were in on it.

Another few things worth mentioning. I remember reading a Ring magazine from back in the day in which Kermit Cintron was interviewed after their fight. He was quoted as saying that Margarito wasn't a big puncher and that he (Margarito) just wore him (Cintron) down. I'll have to dig through some boxes to see if I still have it.

During Margarito vs Cotto I, welterweights were using 8oz gloves, if I am not mistaken. I can't recall exactly when the change was made, but the rules were then changed to have welterweights use 10oz gloves. ***Other weight-classes were affected by this ruling, but I can't remember which weights.***

Cotto was interviewed after their second fight, and he said something to the effect of "the punches didn't feel much different than the first fight and it was hard to notice in the heat battle." He was asked this by JCC Jr and I forgot who else.

Finally, where are these brick pads the Nevada State Athletic Commission seized as evidence? How the hell do you lose evidence? Weren't they sent to a lab to be examined? This reeks of incompetence, and it seems no one can explain with certainty, or proof, that the pads were 100% soaked in plaster of Paris or any other illegal substance.

 

I think I commented on a similar thread in the past; but yes, the case against Margarito stinks. I'm not certain he didn't intend to cheat, but the evidence put forth for what he actually did would not have made an iota of difference in the ring.

 

I think he was.

 

Nope

 

Margarito never had another single knockout in his career, despite the punch being one of the last things to go, after the Mosley fight when this all occurred.

 

No he wasn't innocent. He was caught trying to cheat and his trainer did nothing to argue otherwise either.

 

Explain how he got caught please??? This all started with a blatant lie about plaster blocks, the commission took off like a scalded cat. When the supposed pads were tested they were deemed harmless by the laboratory that microscopically tested them.
Why would anyone place harmless used pads in a boxers wraps ??Capetillo explained what happened & having seen his trainers bag I can quite understand how it happened.
Antonio made the mistake of beating the living daylights out of Cotto when he wasn't supposed to. This caused Mayweather to freak out & he "retired" AGAIN LOL Oscar the same deal except he picked on little Pac !! Big mistake huh ???? lol With this fiasco with the CSAC they had an excuse to get Margarito out of the way neither had the stones to face him
A good FIGHTER!! A CLEAN fighter had his license to box in Ca suspended based on a pack of lies. His good name was tarnished & his career destroyed simply because the two supposed heroes didn't have the stones to face him in a fair fight.
And people still claim boxing isn't riddled with corruption. Its too late to put the matter
right we'll just leave it up to KARMA to deal with the guilty parties. Pac gave Oscar his deserts when he spanked his ass like a red headed stepchild LOL Mayweather didn't have the stones to try to prove himself..
Now just leave the matter in KARMA's hands . I feel truly sorry for all the gullible people that believed Margarito ever did anything illegal

 

I didn't bump any thread I merely asked the same question Ive asked the late Naz Richardson, The CSAC, & countless Mayweather addicts to simply show me one iota of proof Margarito ever tried to load his gloves. No one tried to answer because they couldnt
The CSAC themselves, no doubt on lawyers advice, made this ludicrous statement
" We still believe Mr Margarito MAY have TRIED to alter his wraps so we will NOT be reinstating his license to box in the State of California" Is that the good old U.S. justice at work or just the fact " We think he is guilty though we cannot prove it so we will suspend him anyway' I know which I believe along with many many others that believe justice wasn't given. Now go & worship your so called heroes I'm done discussing it further

 

Great one Ghostie ROFLMAO speaks volumes doesn't it

 

I'm not convinced he cheated vs Cotto which is the common narrative

When Luis Resto got busted vs Billy Collins Jr he was caught in the ring shaking hands with Billy Collins Sr who immediately caught him in the ring. Margarito took his gloves off, shook hands with people, got his hand raised by the ref, embraced Cotto and stood and posed for pictures with numerous boxing insiders, insiders who would catch this then and there. Also, Cotto was the A-side, why would the system ignore obvious cheating to screw over the draw.

I know people will post that photo where one hand wrap looks a little weird. However, no one can explain what it actually shows and at the same time no one produced a second picture where it looks weird.

People point to the Sebastian Lujan ear near tear off, a simple Google search shows this occurring in other fights

"He did not KO anyone after Cotto" Yea, he also fought the best list of opponents of his career: Mosely, Pacquiao and Cotto II, not exactly easy fights. Then throw in the punishment he took vs Cotto in victory and the Mosely fight with the suspension and you can see why his performance may have slipped off. Factor the eye that got badly injured early vs Pacquaio and was an issue in the Cotto rematch. It is hard to knockout top level fighters to begin with and then to do it one eyed is even harder.

 

I believe he was, if he had something in his gloves it wasn’t concrete. The other case in history like this had someone go to jail and the victim was never the same. Cotto wasn’t damaged in a terrible way and Margaritos main asset was his chin.

 

Get over your hate for Mayweather. He had nothing to do with the California athletic commission. You sound like an unhinged conspiracy theorist bringing Mayweather into a topic that has nothing to do with him.

https://www.ringtv.com/120715-margaritos-wraps-were-loaded/ — this has the lab report, which obviously did not clear the wraps in question as you claim

https://www.espn.com/sports/boxing/news/story?id=3897765 — Margarito basically said ‘well if my trainer did it, I had nothing to do with it, all I did was hold my hands out’ (which doesn’t clear him of responsibility). The trainer admits to using some kind of illegal pad.

I have no idea what your objection is. Neither Margarito nor the trainer say the wraps were not illegal … only you do.

 

The thing is about Cotto, in Margarito 2 was that he was completely trained excellently stamina wise. He was used to running miles backwards to be ready for the pressure from Tony. No joke, he wasn't wilting or going nowhere during the later rounds. His conditioning was too good. He was the better boxer that night and if anything he was ready to close both of margaritos eyes down the stretch. As he tasted his victory, Cotto exacted bitter sweet vengeance on the Tijuana tornado.