Larry Holmes vs Sonny Liston

Strength gains are extremely minimal past 18 compared to before, to the point its negligible.
In this study https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8120972/ there are basically 0 strength gains from 18-19 and EXTREMELY little from 19-20. Training only enhances muscle growth and doesn't start it so we can assume we just need to apply the workout to this. What that means is the graph would be sharper but still the same in terms of the respective situations. Foreman would not be making strength gains relative to the years before, not even close.

It is quite literally the same man, sure he can be stronger compared to when he was sparring Liston but its totally unquantifiable. We can logically assume Liston is still stronger.

 

Stop acting like Foreman wasn't heavily trained, he was an Olympic level fighter sparring Sonny Liston who was a world champion. This isnt someone who has much more room to grow. Similar to Tyson who debut at 18 and was already borderline the finished article during his first debut.

Why do I care about this?

 

Hes just that good.

 

No he probably just couldn't decipher your borderline unreadable speech, seriously dude install grammarly it'll help you so much. Maybe if you ask it nicely it'll make logical arguments which are clearly beyond your capabilities.

 

Exactly. He peaked in his younger years.

Hey buddy… got some bad news for you. 19 is between 18 and 25.

 

Visible muscle=more strength??? thats so wrong dude

 

He only started lifting weights after his comeback, your sources are terrible.
Also why are you assuming that his olympic and pro opponents are the same durability?

 

He was not being humble, he truly had an admiration for Liston and if you think differently you’re crazy. Lyle is not stronger than Liston.