Sonny Liston: “The Strongest Heavyweight I Ever Dealt With” - George Foreman

It was and he joked as I would when I would be his age.

 

WIKIPEDIA AND QUORA? You cant be real bro.

 

I think it's true but I can't believe that even with steroids and moder training younger folks were not good as the ones in the 70s.

 

How do you know that?

 

Where you want me to find you more sources?
If I bring Liston himself here you would still claimed that it's not valid just because you don't like the fact that he wasn't that old.

 

Sonny once fired a blanket pistol to wake one fighter, it was his way of joking.

 

Bro? Im not crazy for thinking quora and wikipedia are bad sources. Maybe a new article or something thats actually credible?

 

“He once shot a pistol so hes lying about his age” is basically what you just said,

 

You can find yourself, I wont bother finding that for you because you'll still say it's not true because yout don't like what was writen.

 

Nope, I'm saying that he used to joke often with people and that you can't take everything what he said seriously.

 

What am I gonna do? Your gonna give me a credible source and im gonna be like “um nahhhhhhh” like what? Stop acting like im some horribly bias moron. Nothing iv ever said on this forum is without basis.

 

Ok then I guess nothing Liston ever said is credible because he shot a pistol once!

 

Wikipedia is generally a reliable source with a team of reliable editors who take their role very seriously. The people who complain the most about wikipedia are either insecure academics or teachers who are trying to impart traditional research skills on their students and are annoyed at them having too easy a time finding things.

I have found valuable information on quora but its just a site.

The internet generally gives us better information then previous generations had access to.

 

Yea I agree it can possibly be credible with the right staff but I don’t like using it in intellectual discussion especially on a topic as divisive as Liston. Main reason I didn’t accept it is because iv heard directly contradictory information from sources a lot more credible than wikipedia. Usually I wouldn’t be opposed lol

 

“If you go to the National Archives in Washington, DC and pull up the microfilm for Forrest City, Arkansas you will find Tobin Liston’s 1930 census family card. But Charles L. Liston is not on it. His mother, Helen, is listed, as are his sisters Clytee, Annie and Alcora, and his brothers J.T., Leo and Curtis, who is the youngest at six months. This means that Liston could not have been born before late 1930 and that the oldest he could have been when he fought Ali the first time was 33-years-old.

The 1940 U.S. Census reports have been released. Tobin Liston and his family come into view on a rented farm in backwater Smith Township on April 23rd of that year. They moved there from backwater Johnson Township sometime between 1930 and 1934. Tobin was sixty-seven and working on the farm sixty hours a week despite his advanced age. Helen was minding the chores in and around the rented shack and it’s easy to conjure up a picture of her wiping her hands on an apron as she greets the census taker. It would have been her who gave the names and ages of the children: Leo (“17”), Annie (“15”) and Alcora (“13,” called “Cabbie”), and there, between eleven-year-old Curtis and two-year-old Wesley, “Charles L” appears on record for the first time.

His age is given as “10” which means that 1930 is the likeliest year of his birth.”