Jaron Ennis Gets Hit Way Too Much

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Dynamicpuncher, Jul 14, 2024.

  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2022
    Messages:
    15,217
    Likes Received:
    31,556
    That's a very poor comparison because Duran, Canelo, are known for their exceptional defence for being offensive fighters.

    Very rarely does Canelo take flush punches he always slips or rolls with the punches Duran in his prime was also the same.

    Like I said Ennis has got away with it so far because hes been considerably the bigger man in every fight and hasn't fought any notable names yet. Hes going to have to improve on his defence once he steps up or fights someone his own size with power.

    And finally as for your question am I concerned Ennis is so hittable vs B and C class opposition ? Yes I am.
     
    Last edited: Jul 15, 2024
  2. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2022
    Messages:
    15,217
    Likes Received:
    31,556
    Crawford has a considerably better defence than Ennis and has fought considerably way better opposition than Ennis.
     
    Smoochie, Power_tek and Oddone like this.
  3. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2005
    Messages:
    6,524
    Likes Received:
    2,150
    If Ennis is an "American hype job," name the non-American welterweights who can beat him.

    I'll wait.
     
  4. DRUGS

    DRUGS Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    May 6, 2014
    Messages:
    5,948
    Likes Received:
    8,500
    Who Exactly is a legit fighter in your eyes?
     
    Salty Dog and MarkusFlorez99 like this.
  5. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    17,125
    Likes Received:
    10,639
    He's aggressive, all aggressive fighters get hit.

    He hasn't really had very many defensive lapses and Avanesyan I'd argue isn't a manifesto on him not being good defensively. David is pretty consistent as far as making for a competitive fight where you're gonna take some shots from him before getting him out. Crawford, Lamont all took some hits from him. Boots behaved how he should've here especially given the fact he hasn't been in the ring in over a year.

    No he isn't a Roy who can avoid damn near everything for 12 rounds, but he's not a get hit with everything like Gatti either. I'd say he's closer to Marquez, very good defensively but is gonna get hit more than he should because he's aggressive
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2022
    Messages:
    15,217
    Likes Received:
    31,556
    Aggressive fighters get hit yes but they're certainly plenty of examples of aggressive fighters with good defense like Duran, Qawi, Canelo, etc.

    As I said yes hes got away with it so far because hes considerably bigger than all of his opponents and has not fought anyone of note. When he steps up those defensive lapses will be far more prolific especially against someone his own size with power as I keep saying.

    I don't think you can claim Ennis has a very good defense hes been very hittable in his last few fights against B and C class fighters that for me is not a very good defense.
     
    Smoochie likes this.
  7. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2005
    Messages:
    6,524
    Likes Received:
    2,150
    I also think it's possible that against phsyicallly overmatched opponents who don't, at least theoretically, pose a significant threat, Ennis may deliberately choose a "good offense is the best defense" approach out of overconfidence and in the interest of being entertaining.

    He certainly wouldn't be the first to do so.
     
  8. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2024
    Messages:
    2,719
    Likes Received:
    4,579
    I fancy Giyasov and Cissokho’s chances I think.
     
  9. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jun 5, 2010
    Messages:
    17,125
    Likes Received:
    10,639
    That plus the fact he was seeking out a knockout, he definitely isn't the first to toss defense aside.

    Would you say Crawford is very hittable as well (using him because that was one of David's last 2 fights). He was definitely landing on Crawford as well, only difference is Crawford didn't stay in the pocket whereas again........Ennis was far more willing to stand there (likely because he was pressing for an impressive finish). Avanesyan is a good measuring stick, I said as soon as the Crowley fight fell through this was a better test (think I'm the only one who said that actually). As for last few fights I'm not sure what you're referring to, he didn't take that much from Villa other than the errant shot and he took nothing from Chukadzhian, Custio or Lipinets :thinking: Those are all his last opponents. Over the course of his career he's definitely shown that he doesn't get hit all that much, unless he's not concerned about the incoming.
     
    Smoochie, Salty Dog and Toney F*** U like this.
  10. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2022
    Messages:
    15,217
    Likes Received:
    31,556
    Crawford very rarely has taken flush shots and whilst his opposition hasn't been amazing its considerably better than Ennis.

    Maybe Ennis is taking more risks because hes considerably bigger and feels no threat from his opponents power. Regardless like I said I would like to see if he can make defensive improvements, he does get hit a bit too much for liking and it's against C and B class fighters.

    I'm still not sold on Ennis hes talented yes but has significant flaws and I'm not sure he would get away with it against an elite fighter his own size.
     
    northpaw likes this.
  11. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Aug 26, 2020
    Messages:
    2,612
    Likes Received:
    3,074
    I agree with the op, even though I am a big Boots fan.

    Ennis definitely needs to sharpen up his defense, even though I think he was a little bit excited in front of the hometown crowd last time out. I've been saying for a while now that he needs to fight at least one top level guy before tackling someone like Crawford.
     
    Smoochie and Dynamicpuncher like this.
  12. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 22, 2015
    Messages:
    75,073
    Likes Received:
    39,494
    Most offensive fighters do, Avanesyan is a pretty decent fighter, it's no surprise he was able to land some good shots on Boots. But he does have good defense and can box well off the back foot if he needs to, but he's got dog in him and likes to mix it up and go for the KO.
     
    Smoochie, Levook and Wizbit1013 like this.
  13. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

    Joined:
    Jul 24, 2005
    Messages:
    6,524
    Likes Received:
    2,150
    I actually like Cissokho, but he's not beating Ennis. Likewise, Giyasov is a solid fighter, but he probably gets stopped.

    Both of those guys are in their 30s, and neither one of them have shown me anything to suggest they can beat Ennis.
     
  14. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

    Joined:
    Oct 16, 2019
    Messages:
    7,187
    Likes Received:
    11,431
    He’s fine right now since he’s so much bigger and better than all the other welterweights. When he moves up though, he does need to sharpen up his defense. I’m also a bit concerned about his longevity; the guy is always sparring in and out of camp and gets hit a lot come fight night. Hope the gym doesn’t get him shopworn like Teo.
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2022
    Messages:
    15,217
    Likes Received:
    31,556
    Avanesyan is 35 years old had a 4 week training camp fighting against a fighter who was atleast 2 weightclasses bigger than him.

    Ennis's defense hasn't troubled him yet because hes considerably bigger than all his opponents and has not fought a top level fighter yet.
     
    Smoochie and Oddone like this.