HW Hofs- Usyk / Joshua / Wilder / Fury / Who else?

Wilder fought bums aside from Ortiz who was out-boxing him till getting caught, Wilder was a fraud.

 

lol! Height and reach make you harder to hit without getting caught on the way in, fighters with a huge reach advantage have an insane advantage if they are powerful.

 

If Wilder fought bums, who did Ricard Lopez fight?

If Wilder fought bums, who did Khaosai Galaxy fight?

They're considered among the greatest ever at their weights. I don't hear anyone saying the Hall of Fame should be taken down if they got in. (Which they did.)

You guys have hated for so long you're just spittin nonsense. The next wave of fans will be the judges.

 

Name all the HEIGHT divisions in the sport.

Do boxers in the smaller divisions have to gain height to move up and win belts, or weight?

Seriously. Enough already.

Wilder was outweighed by everyone he faced for 12 years, routinely by quite a bit. And he blasted out nearly all of them. And was among the most successful heavyweight titlists ever. One of the greatest punchers the sport has ever produced. It was a big accomplishment. He had an outstanding career.

Take a breath. And open your eyes.

 

Wilder was rarely the smaller man in the ring. He's a 6'6'' giant with 83'' reach.

 

He was not Very good. And I don’t have to try hard to hate on someone who wasn’t very good. Did he fight Joshua No
Did he fight Usyk No
Did he fight Povetkin No
Did he fight Wlad No
Did he fight Fury Yes - He lost by KO twice
Did he fight Parker Yes - he lost 11-1 on cards
Did he fight Zhang Yes - He lost by KO

He was an over hyped limited fighter carefully maneuvered in the division. A one trick pony that Fury exposed.

 

Yet, they were among Fury, Parker and Zhang's biggest wins when they beat him. And Fury, Parker and Zhang all had huge weight advantages over Wilder every time they fought. And the one Wilder fought three times is a known PED cheat. (We'll see about the resurgent Parker, who's been 'rejuvenated.')

If Wilder outweighed someone by 70 pounds, let's say a 144-pounder, and won, would you think it was a big deal? Would you say that 144-pounder was "exposed?" No, people would laugh that Wilder fought someone so light.

If Wilder outweighed someone by 40 pounds, let's say a 174-pounder, would you think it was a big deal? Some light heavy? Are you kidding.

Wilder the bully strikes again.

But, when old Wilder gives up that much weight to them, that "exposes" Wilder?

Nobody applies these bizarre notions to other fighters.

You guys have been hating too long. There's no talking to you.

Instead of marveling at this scrawny guy who was blasting out much larger heavyweights for more than a decade and putting together an all-time reign and number of title defenses ...

You think he's "exposed" because, in his old age, he lost to two much heavier, younger drug cheats (well, one confirmed drug cheat and his teammate who is involved in drug smuggling/money laundering) and top fighter who outweighs him by nearly 80 pounds.

 

Dribblechin

 

Your whole scenario is bizarre. Wilder fights in the heavyweight division - no weight limit in that division. I’m supposed to give Wilder extra credit because he’s skinny? He’s 6’7 with an 83 inch reach. He has plenty of other advantages over his opponents aside from his weight.
Based on his competition- who he actually fought and defeated let me hear you make the case that he deserves to be in the hall of fame.

 

lol! The next wave of fans won`t even know who Wilder was, his most famous fights were v Fury.

 

Are you serious? Have you heard of Tommy Hearns? If a fighter is tall for his weight and can`t go on to win titles in higher weight classes then he is a weight bully with no talent.

 

My scenario isn't bizarre in the least.

He's in the top 10 at heavyweight in terms of longest reign.

He's in the top five at heavyweight in terms of number of consecutive successful defenses.

He's got one of the highest ko percentages among champions in boxing history.

He did that even though he was outweighed by everyone he fought for 12 years ... which is basically unheard of these days ... so much so you can't wrap your mind around it or find anyone else who faced that kind of challenge and was so successful.

That's all amazing.

What's bizarre is you think that because he lost at the end of his career to three guys who outweighed by 30, 40 and nearly 80 pounds ...(One a proven drug cheat with a 40-pound weight advantage in all their fights) ,,,

That he was "exposed."

Wilder even managed to floor the drug cheat four times in their fights and successfully defend his title for the eighth time against him in their first fight (and arguably was cheated out of a win in their third fight due to another long count) ... but that doesn't matter to you.

You think they "exposed" him.

Because of height, or something. Because, now height is how we determine evenly matched fights, not weights.

Whatever man.

Can't wait for the next wave of fans. Because you guys have lost all sense.

Fans can't even defend guys like Lopez or Galaxy ... because you could use the same argument you're using against Wilder to bash them. (And they never had to deal with the huge disparities he did.)

So what does that say about your arguments about Wilder?

 

What? Tommy Hearns won titles from 147 to 175. That's 28 pounds. It was considered a huge weight span.

If Wilder gave up 28 pounds to an opponent, nobody batted an eye.

The only people he lost to outweighed him by more than that. Zhang weighed nearly 3 times more than that total weight difference.

And Hearns didn't weigh 147 when he was fighting 175 pounders.

 

Then it's a good thing he has so many all-time records. He'll always be there.

 

You never mentioned his competition because you can’t. Listen I’ve seen your posts on here for years regarding Wilder. Every time he’s failed your argument for him evolves, now it’s to the point Wilder gets extra credit for being skinny. It’s clear you are die hard fan, so I’m not going to keep on with this, you can believe what you want and I can be objective with the facts. I believe it’s a gross injustice to fighters that were willing to face the best, to allow someone like Wilder to gain admittance.