HW Hofs- Usyk / Joshua / Wilder / Fury / Who else?

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We'll, he didn't just beat two ranked fighters, so I don't know why you keep insisting he did.

    Everyone he faced in WBC title fights was ranked by the WBC. That's 13 title fights total, including his challenge to Fury. Everyone he faced after he lost the title was ranked by one of the orgs, that's another three.

    No champ in history took orders from Ring.

    They followed the orgs of their time

    But don't let facts get in your way.

    If his last fight was Zhang, he should be inducted before the end of the decade.
     
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  2. Dynamicpuncher

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    I don't know why you're bringing up WBC when i'm clearly on about Ring Magazine Ratings and what i said is indeed correct so no facts are not getting in my way buddy you're just confused.

    Yes a losing effort to Zhang in which he got poleaxed in 5 one sided rounds Wilder has a habit of losing in one sided fashion to notable fighters Parker, Fury, Zhang.

    But yeah you can keep hyping up Wilder's 11 title defences against Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola = 2-2 in his last 5 fights including a draw against the amazing Fred Kassi that earnt him his shot vs Wilder apparently, Szpilka, Stirverne = Out of shape and had fought once in 2 years, Washington.

    A murderers row list of opponents there he's got my vote for the Hall of Fame.
     
  3. Dubblechin

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    The champs follow the orgs of their day.

    They still do.

    Ring didn't even exist when many guys in the Hall were fighting.

    They just followed the powers at the time.

    Ring was never one of them, until they tried to be in the last couple years.

    Ring didn't even rank Fury in the top 10 when he held the WBC belt and signed to defend his WBC title against Chisora in front of tens of thousands of people.

    So they dropped the ball when they tried to take charge for once.

    The Ring ratings are as problematic as any other, historically.

    And fans that click on one Ring year end rating and think they have all the info don't have.much to stand on
     
  4. Dubblechin

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    Now tell us how Joe King Roman got ranked by Ring and received a title shot?

    Do you really want to go down the road of bad Ring ratings?

    Or how they were routinely are the last ratings group of all to finally come around on a fighter and recognize him? Hell, they didn't have Andy Ruiz in the top 10 when he stopped Joshua.

    Because we can do an endless thread on that.

    The champs in history have always followed the orgs of their day.

    NOT Ring ratings.
     
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  5. Mark Anthony

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    I think he looked really poor in his losses to Fury.
     
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  6. Mark Anthony

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    He only faced Fury because Fury was out of shape in his two comeback fights prior to his first fight v Wilder.
     
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  7. Dubblechin

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    Knowing champs in history rarely cared about and paid zero attention to Ring ratings ...

    So deciding on your own to judge them based on ratings they didn't follow.....

    Is ass backwards.

    No one is excluded from the Hall of Fame based on that.
     
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  8. Mark Anthony

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    Why is the hall of fame held in higher esteem than the ring magazine?
     
  9. Dubblechin

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    When he gets inducted in a couple years, you guys can all moan about it for the rest of your lives.

    Because nobody is bouncing him out of the most consecutive defenses all-time list any time soon.

    Burns is still there, after all.

    Wilder will be on the books 100 years from now.
     
  10. Mark Anthony

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    Nobody will care.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

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    Molina, Duhaupas, Szpilka, Arreola = 2-2 in his last 5 fights including a draw against the amazing Fred Kassi that earnt him his shot vs Wilder apparently, Szpilka, Stirverne = Out of shape and had fought once in 2 years, Washington.

    I told you he's got my vote with that legendary list of murderers row opponents 11 legendary title defenses the best in history.
     
  12. Dynamicpuncher

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    The only one who cares is you you've been the most annoying Wilder stan for years on this forum and have been made to look incredibly silly numerous times with your silly Wilder takes.

    If he gets in good for him i don't think he deserves it based on his opposition but it won't effect my life either way.
     
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  13. Dubblechin

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    It's going to be a long 100 years for you. :) Your kids will die of old age, and Wilder will still be on the books among the champions with the most consecutive title defenses at heavyweight.
     
  14. Dubblechin

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    It bothers you so much. But, but Szpilka ... Ring ... uh ... uh.

    :headbash
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    Why would it ? i could really careless about the Hall of Fame there is no real criteria for it anyway look at Gatti and McGuigan for example who are in the Hall of Fame.

    If you think Wilder deserves to be in there good for you i just find it laughable how you try and exaggerate his resume still after all these years.

    That other troll Redbeard, ShortRound, Neetzschean, and all his other 100s of ALT accounts stopped trolling here with his Wilder nonsense after he started losing. But fair play you've stuck to defending Wilder after all these years so respect.
     
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