How good was JC Chavez jr.?

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  1. drenlou

    drenlou VIP Member

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    Not very good at all, tho he was able to be guys like Duddy and Lee when they were on the rise.
     
  2. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

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    At his best i think hes probably a little underrated. Decent fighter at his peak.

    Id say C+ or B - -
     
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  3. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member

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    He had power and the one thing that can't be taught and that was chin. Could have gone far if he applied himself. If I had to rate his career and performance I would say was a C fighter. His last name gave him opportunities that other lack luster fighters couldn't get.
     
  4. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I wouldn't say he sucked but he was literally just a bang average title holder who was full of juice to achieve what he did. He beat Andy Lee which is a solid win and Marco Antonio Rubio another good win not much of note outside of that was all dodgey how he got the title WBC did everything they could to take it from Martinez.

    Martinez, when they did eventually fight, boxed his head off for 11 rounds then dislocated his hip in the last round and nearly lost the fight.

    It also must be noted that he was most likely roided to the gills in his middleweight run and coming in around 190lbs to his fights so much bigger than most opponents.

    He got a gift vs Oisin ***an, he got a gift vs Carlos Molina x2, got a gift x2 vs Brian Vera so that's at least 5 extra losses he should have on his record.

    Did nothing above 160lbs where he was no longer a massive weight bully and got absolutely battered by Fonfara who was a top 10 light heavy when he fought him.
     
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  5. Scar

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    He was a tough kid, really determined. It's just sad he started hanging out with scumbag druglords.
     
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  6. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yep the shear size of him helped him get decent wins at middleweight.
     
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  7. IsaL

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    Come on Kirk, he had some decent wins against B level guys.

    He was a solid B level fighter.
     
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  8. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    This is the answer. “Fighters who suck” don’t go 12 with Sergio Martinez and almost stop him in the process. Granted Sergio whipped his ass for 90% of that fight, but still, I feel my point stands.

    edit: Sergio was past prime, but still excellent. His last good performance iirc.
     
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  9. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing

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    Yeah, we all know what happened with Hector Camacho.....
     
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  10. mono

    mono Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was good enough, and I don’t mean that in a negative way. Plenty of exciting fights under his belt but like everyone else knows, his dedication just wasn’t there.

    I don’t remember the other fights all that well, but I clearly remember the second Vera fight and no way was it a gift.
     
  11. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chavez Jr vs Jake Paul coming soon.
     
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  12. iceferg

    iceferg Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Both of the fights were the same that's why there was a rematch. Probably a few more untelevised gifts he had as well.

    I fully expect him to get the call to fight Jake Paul next. Now if he knuckles down and actually gets fit for 8 rounds he can win that. If not it's another embarrassing night for him.
     
  13. JL Fighter

    JL Fighter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I have always liked the guy.
     
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  14. Hanz Cholo

    Hanz Cholo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Had he pulled out that miracle 12th round comeback KO vs “Sexy Sergio” this conversation & his legacy would have a much different tone.

    he just didnt have enough training / discipline in the bank to pull it out.
     
  15. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt FROM THE RIVER TO THE SEA Full Member

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    Upon rewatch sometime within a couple of years I came to believe Zbik deserved it. Look at my posts re: his name as search keyword from 2015, 2018, 2020, etc and I've consistently held that it was a lucky day for JCCJ.

    There might be a complete rewatch scorecard floating around somewhere. I could give it another with fresh 2024 eyes but... it's hardly a treat. :lol:
     
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