Sanctioning bodies CAN'T dictate who you fight if you don't hold a belt. Wilder could have made plenty of money fighting in non title fights vs the likes of Joshua. He didn't need to cater to the WBC or WBA or WBO etc in terms of who he fought. His power would have been a draw to fans regardless of holding a belt. An Olympic medal and undefeated record helped as well. I'd say Povetkin had a better career than Wilder himself. If you don't find yourself impressed with his career that doesn't bode well for Wilder being hof worthy himself. He has wins over Whyte, Chambers, and Chagaev.
I think they should put up a poll about Wilder deserving a spot in the hall of fame, I certainly feel Wilder was a very poor heavyweight champ, but would be interested in a poll though.
How would you rate Wilde out of 10 as a boxer overall? He was really easy to hit and had poor balance, all he has was power and a good reach.
The only one who cares is you you're throwing your toys out of your pram typing out long paragraphs because someone doesn't agree Wilder is a "shoe in" for the HOF. Whether he gets in or not I could careless it won't effect my life like it will yours. You're the one that has been hero worshipping Wilder for years I've never been emotionally invested in any boxer like you have.
I'm starting to think you are my ex wife..... Love to run your mouth no matter how silly, illogical, and far from the truth your words are, you stay passionate in your chanting until eventually I just walk away from the conversation and leave you talking to yourself. And she definitely has a "Double Chin" today now that she doesn't come to my gym anymore....lol. I'll go ahead and drop these facts one last time and leave your idiotic rebuttals alone because nothing is to be gain from conversing with someone who is willingly trying to be ignorant rather than just accepting knowledge given to them. 1st.....You are wrong about your "Only a third" of the heavyweight HOF'ers only beating one champ. I would go ahead and drop the names of all the heavyweight HOF'ers and the champs they beat, but based on this conversation, you aren't interested in reading, nor learning anything, especially when it go against your silly opinion. 2nd.....The "Four Belt Era" began in 2007. That was the first year the WBO was universally recognized as a major world title. That last meaningful bout that Michael Moorer participated in was in 2004 vs Vassily Jirov (remember the name I'll bring him up again in a second). As I stated already, Moorer retired 3x. Only came back to the sport due to financial troubles. From 05-08 he had 5 fights that could easily be labeled as "exhibitions" but they were vs active fighters so they counted towards his overall record. 3 of them he stopped within 90 seconds of the fight starting. 3rd....And lastly.....if your comprehension was on the appropriate grade level to consider yourself an adult along with the rest of us, you'd know that I stated that Moorer fought 4 world champions.... Vassily Jirov, James Smith, Evander Holyfield, and George Foreman. And he has a victory over all of them not named George Foreman..... 4 names, with a victory over all but one, if my math is correct, that gives him 3 wins over world champions. Remember, he beat Holyfield the first fight before losing to him a couple years later. Not knowing my **** is not your problem huh?.....lol. It should be a problem for you not to know **** at all and not realizing how silly you sound trying to prove otherwise.......... I'm done with you. Feel free to run you mouth with whatever response you please. I'm not wasting another second on your ignorance. Too many Goofy individuals with a WiFi these days. I keep forgetting that.
First, I said heavyweight champions. Not heavyweights. One-third of heavyweight champions in the hall ... Second, the four-belt era began when the WBO was created ... not 19 years later (I don't know how you pulled 2007 out of your ass). For example, Moorer was "the first" WBO light heavyweight champ. They were even going to stage the first four-title unification back in 1989/1990 at light heavyweight, and hyped it on the USA Network, where all four light heavyweight champs (WBO included) got together on camera to discuss it, but Arum couldn't pull the money together. Hell, Naseem Hamed beat all the other alphabet champs, dumped the other belts and kept the WBO belt ... before the 2000s even began. (But I guess that was before your time.) Third, Moorer beat two heavyweight champions. I said most heavyweight champions in the hall of fame (two-thirds) only beat two heavyweight champions. Which is absolutely true. Even when you just changed it to the number of "champions overall" Moorer "faced," you still got that wrong. Finally, I feel bad for your ex-wife. Anyone disagrees with you, and you go WAY OFF the deep end. All I said was they're all (Usyk, Joshua, Fury, Wilder) getting in. And your head exploded. Wilder's a lock for the Hall. Ask your ex, she knows. You know it, too. Denial and anger are just the first stages of grief. You'll get there. Someone always has to be the last person to cross the finish line. Looks like you'll be one of them. Don't be last. WILDER. WILDER WILDER WILDER. go away now
So Furys in the HOF because he beat... Wlad and Wilder? Only HOF right now is Usyk. AJ still has time. Fury no Wilder no.
True but I find the ring's problematic ratings a little bit less problematic than the orgs. Not that it matters as you said. The org's aren't in anyway beholden to press and that's what The Ring is.
I would imagine all of the above would likely get in Boxers and people involved get in for all different reasons I would guess that popularity can also play a large part I would think there are quite a few boxers from this era and recent times that could have an argument whether fans think they are greats or not D Whyte resume - A Povetkin O Rivas J Parker L Browne A Povetkin resume - M Huck H Rahman D Whyte M Charr R Chagaev C Byrd Is Brian Neilsen in the HOF? He went 49-0 with 33 kos Neilsen notable opponents up to that time James bone crusher Smith Tony Tubbs Larry Holmes Peter McNeely Tim Witherspoon Ross Purity Phil Jackson Just thought I would throw it out there
J Parker A winner of 3 world title fights Has wins over - A Ruiz Z Zhang D Wilder Could he be eligible as a world champion from New Zealand?
Ruiz wasn`t that great v Parker at all and Wilder needs to retire, his fight with Zhang was weird, Parker needs to throw more shots.