HW Hofs- Usyk / Joshua / Wilder / Fury / Who else?

Rocky is more famous than Wilder.

 

lol! Where was Smith, TubbsHolmes and Witherspoon rated when they fought Brian, and how many losses did they have by then?

 

Derek Chisora would be high up on that list if he got to fight Fat penguin Stiverne for the title and got to defend against the likes of Washington and Szpillka every 6 months.

 

I would guess most of them on his resume would be at the later stages of their respective careers. Not all though.
Still that wasn't what I asked and can be said for many fighters
So stick with the question

 

That`s a poor list, those guys hadn`t fought a top 10 contender in years by then, I think the last decent figter Witherspoon fought was Mercer and was 41 when he fought Brian.

 

Wilder is a lock for these reasons:

1. 10 consecutive WBC heavyweight title defences over 5 years (2nd longest single reign since 1985 behind Wlad), best win being top 5 ranked, 30-0, 93% stoppage ratio southpaw Ortiz
2. KO record (2nd highest KO % among heavyweight champions, lots of spectacular KO's, perhaps the most devastating right hand puncher ever)
3. Historic trilogy with the 3 stone heavier then undefeated lineal champion Fury
4. Most significant American heavyweight this century thus far, restored a degree of prestige to the American heavyweight scene, the only American male boxer to win an Olympic medal from 2008-2012, ended the 7.5 year American heavyweight title drought (by far the longest period without an American champion in heavyweight history), which in the absence of Wilder would be a 17 year drought and counting (barring the farcical 85 day “reign” of Charles Martin)

Usyk, Fury and Joshua are locks too, I think all four will get in on the first ballot.

After that I don't know. Parker has a nice collection of wins on paper and he snagged a title but he doesn't fare so well in areas like defences, KO's, historic fights and nationality, plus he lost to non-titlists Whyte and Joyce in his prime years. Ruiz scored a mega upset and is the first Mexican champ but almost certainly needs to do more. Zhang hasn't won a title as it stands and being Chinese likely counts against him (Povetkin had similar problems), the HoF is based in America after all.

 

Does this look like a hall of famer to you dubby:-

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Anyone does that look like a hall of famer?

Dubby I seen you typing away post after post, paragraph after paragraph, love letter after love letter in pure infatuation of Deontay Wilder as if he is some of first ballot hall of famer. And I ignored all of that by making an excuse, perhaps dubby is Deontay Wilders friend, or his son or maybe he is even Malik Scott. But then you start calling my post weird. Weird? I tell you whats weird: Deontay Wilder's resume was thinner than his damn calves and here you are parading the man as if he some sorta 1st Ballot Hall of Famer.

Luis Ortiz is the only great wins he has to his name in fights where he was getting his head boxed off by a senior citizen Cuban illegal immigrant with a fake age. Come on Dubby. I think you been taking that same Ayahuasca as Deontay Wilder did if you think that is some sorta 1st Ballot Hall of fame worthy feat. This is ridiculous.

Either that or you are Malik Scott who agreed to sell his honour, to sell his pride, to sell his dignity by taking the most blatant dive in modern day boxing history in order to pad up Deontays record. Take a look at this:-

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Hall of shame. Malik Scott and Deontay Wilder thought we would buy that crap? Then Malik Scott goes on to participate in a ridiculous twerk video with Deontay:-

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They must think us boxing scholars were born last night if they think we don't know they fixed their fight.

That's the man you are claiming to be a 1st ballot Hall of Fame. He got beaten up by a Nandos grilled chicken launched at him by a middleweight Billy Joe Saunders:-

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On top of that he struggled to beat up the troll Charlie Zelenoff who landed heavy body shot on the bronze bomber: before running away-

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Credit to Wilder for protecting his daughters honour. But we can't be throwing the term first ballot hall of famer loosely. In my opinion he could have made it to the hall of fame.. but then he made a twerk video and became an ayahuasca consumer.

And Joe Frazier gets a statue in the crackhead part of Philadelphia while Rocky Balboa gets a tourist attraction statue. We are boxing scholars not some laymen casuals.

 

Haven't said it is good or bad
As said, similar can be said for many...
So back to the original question

 

Did you purposely leave out the original audio? Deontay Wilder was at a family party and he was making his daughters laugh by making fun of the way they dance. His girls thought it was hilarious laughing at dad. What dad with daughters hasn't made fun of the way his girls dance? And what dad doesn't confront a bully making fun of his daughter?

Usyk makes stupid dancing movies all the time, and all he's doing is entertaining other the men in his camp ,,, not doing it to make little kids laugh.

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Hey, guess who also has a statue in his hometown. Deontay Wilder. And he didn't have to wait nearly as long as Joe Frazier.

https://d.newsweek.com/en/full/2051...webp?w=790&f=7267e5c36ebc8e7434ba7d85efe76900

He's a lock for the Hall of Fame. One of the longest reigning and most successful defending heavyweight champions in history.

Keep working through it, though. I don't want you guys to melt down when it happens.

 

Dribblechin

 

If he retires first, Wilder will probably get in before Fury, Usyk and Joshua.

That would be REALLY fun. Good times ahead.

 

Usyk out-classed AJ twice, this whole era of heavyweights was overrated, you`re living in 5 years ago, all that stuff has been undone by losses proving these fighters were over-hyped.

 

What would you rate Wilder out of 10 as a fighter?

 

The only place on this entire planet that this "original audio" could probably be heard is up Deontay Wilders arse. Thats why I never heard this "original audio" and neither have my people. Butt you seem to be the only human that has heard this "original audio".

Laughing at dad is all you Americans do. Homer Simpson is a clown, family guy dad is a clown, my wife and kids dad is a clown. Will Smith a clown. The breaking bad dude from Malcolm in the Middle was a clown. This clownification of the family's patriarchal father figure has been going on for decades in your land and now we got Deontay Wilder shaking his buttocks, acting a damn clown while you think it is "hilarious". It's a disgrace. The only American dad that I had some level of respect for was Phillip Banks from Fresh Prince but when man intellectually deeply ponders over Phillip Banks... he was an overweight unhealthy balding man that would get bossed around by his wife. Thats also a damn clown.

Are you asking the question, what dad with daughters hasn't twerked for his daughters? Where is your honour lad, is this normal. I come from a lineage of honourable men that never did that clown stuff. No father with daughters that I know of would twerk for anyone other than you American ones as Homer Simpson has been your main man for decades. You Americans have turned the patriarchal head of the family father figure into clown joke that twerks. Instead of condemning his daughters for doing public twerking you American dads rather join them in their degeneracy. Where is your integrity?

Already gave him the respect and credit for that in my earlier post. This is the aspect of fatherhood that should be praised. Any Deontay Wilder hater who doesn't admire what he did in defending his daughter and taking up boxing to give her the help she needed has problems. And it is great that Deontay Wilder managed to achieve that through boxing. He did well but he took a body shot from Charlie Zelenoff which in my book should reduce his chances of entering the hall of fame. On top of that Billy Joe Saunders a middleweight beat him up with a Nandos Grilled chicken.

Doing it to make little kids laugh... that is exactly the definition of a clown. You calling Deontay Wilder a clown for that yourself.

Usyk dance moves have helped him in the ring. This is the thing, twerking is for women, its a feminine dance, some of us men may enjoy, in a controlled environment time to time when women do this dance. Not when other men do it like Deontay.

Usyk dance moves are quick footwork, fast hands and angles. Which transitioned from the dance floor to the boxing ring. Deontay Wilder's twerk dance failed in transitioning from the dance floor to the boxing ring. His twerking dance is for women, its when a woman turns around, shows her back and shakes her backside. And when Deontay Wilder turned around and showed his back in boxing ring... he got banged by Zhang. Usyk dance moves helped him in the ring while Deontay's dance moves got him banged by a big Chinese fella. You can't compare the two. We should praise Usyk's dance moves and perhaps even teach this aspect of fighting to our sons, while we should condemn Deontaya dance moves. Their ring performances are testament to that.

I wouldn't be surprised if you also got a Deontay Wilder statue in your bedroom.

Let's be honest Tuscaloosa is not comparable to Philadelphia. One is a big city the other is a farm town that has horse dung on the roads. To get planning permission for a statue in Philadelphia you would need to go through the council, the mayor, the capitalists, tech firms, the environmentalists, the far right, the far left, Trump, Biden, Nato and so on and so forth...

... to get a statue in Tuscaloosa all you need to do is just ask the local Sheriff in a cowboys hat and buy him dinner. Not comparable.

You can't compare Joe Frazier to Deontay Wilder in terms of their credibility or their statues.

Svenn Ottke has a longer championship reign than Deontay Wilder.

 

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