Best Canelo performance

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  1. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Golovkin was on the backfoot and his primary offense was the jab. And whilst his jab was effective I liked Canelo's aggression and power punches more.

    I see nothing wrong with Canelo getting the nod in fight 2 he outlanded Golovkin in power punches in 9 out of the 12 rounds.
     
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  2. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Compubox is blatantly corrupt and biased. Never trust their punch counts, they're less than useless. Watch any round of any fight which was counted by Compubox in half speed and focus on landed punches in scoring areas. Arm punches, punches below the belt, to the back of the head, or to the back are not scoring punches according to the rules of boxing either: "The test to measure the awarding of points for “offensive boxing” should be the number of direct, clean punches delivered with the knuckle part of the closed glove on any part of the scoring zone of the opponent’s body above the belt line. The judges should also consider the effect of blows received versus the number of punches delivered. Punches that are blocked or deflected should not be considered in tabulating your score. Blocked or deflected punches that land foul are not to be considered fouls in the awarding of points at the end of the round." Much of Canelo's best work was on the arms and on the gloves, which aren't scoring punches and should not be counted, whereas most of GGG's work was clean, head-snapping jabs. Canelo struggled to land those big power punches flush to scoring areas with the same regularity with which Golovkin landed flush with his jab and his own power punches.
     
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  3. C.J.

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    Why He's telling the truth
     
  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    When it comes to Canelo GGG 2, I've always maintained that it was a very close fight and you can certainly cherry pick certain punches and make the argument that GGG deserved to get the victory. But Canelo clearly landed the harder more effective punches, he was loading up with big shots throughout the night while GGG was content to throw a lot of light and mostly ineffective jabs. Yes GGG caught Canelo with some good shots in the 10th round, but in the vast majority of the rounds Canelo landed the more damaging shots and that was what made the difference.

    If you count punches thrown and highlight some of Canelo's punches that hit arms and gloves, you can certainly make the argument that Canelo was outpointed. But the fact of the matter is that Canelo was clearly ahead after 7 or 8 rounds and GGG needed a big comeback late. GGG did make a late comeback but the late rounds were still back and forth and competitive, meaning that the judges couldn't conclusively give GGG all the late rounds that he needed in order to win. He won some of them, but not all of them, and in the end the split late rounds were not enough for GGG to overcome the early and mid-round punishment that Canelo dished out.
     
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  5. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Golovkins jab was a power punch.
     
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  6. DJN16

    DJN16 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Although I think he got beat, he was very good in the 2nd GGG fight.

    He fought well in the 1st fight as well tbf.
     
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  7. ILikeBoxingForRealz

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  8. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    What fight were you watching lol?
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

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    I'm not using a YT channel as a basis to score a fight.

    Canelo was the aggressor on the front foot for most of the fight and landed the harder more effective punches that's how I see it and I'm sticking to my opinion.
     
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  10. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    You won't use an unbiased and more accurate AI punch count but you will use incompetent and corrupt Compubox punch stats to back up your scoring, got it.
     
  11. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'll use neither just my own two eyes to see who the aggressor was and who was landing the more effective power punches which was Canelo.
     
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  12. bandeedo

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    That’s the way I do it. Don’t need someone who knows less about boxing telling me what I’m watching. And I saw what you saw.
     
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  13. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He lost GGG 1

    GGG 2 I am not concerned about. It was close

    His best performance was, IMO, the Chávez Jr fight. He looked sensational that night
     
  14. Bokaj

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    Lower level of fighters, though, and where he had the size advantage. Fighters such as GGG, Jacobs, BJS, Smith, Ryder, Mungia etc were all at least his size and at least top 3-5 of their division. I thought Jacoba and BJS would give him more trouble than they did, so I'll pick those along with GGG 2.

    The Kovalev win was very good on the face of it. Kova had just thoroughly dominated Yarde in every round but one. He was badly shook in that round, though, and it wasn't a great look that he didn't get more time to recuperate. Especially since he was suspiciously easily wobbled by the left hook which set up the final right.

    I had money on Kovalev and he was ahead on my scorecard, but I felt that maybe I was too generous to Kova since I wanted him to win. Canelo was landing all the heavy leather from memory, so I wasn't surprised by the judges' cards. Haven't scored it again, though.
     
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  15. Dorrian_Grey

    Dorrian_Grey It came to me in a dream Full Member

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    Yeah, I just prefer watching Canelo the combination puncher instead of Canelo the cumbersome Puncher
     
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