Ruiz got fatter AGAIN

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  1. Libertine

    Libertine Active Member Full Member

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    Is he one of the 0.5% who can blame genetics? No normal obese person can go 12 rounds
     
  2. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    I think the actual figure for the percentage of the population with genetic factors for obesity is 3% and even then it doesn't totally determine if you will be obese it just gives you a higher possibility of being so. BMI heritability in twin studies shows this can be between 47-80%, meaning at worst even if he has poor genetics he has a 20% chance of not being obese if my understanding is correct. Given he's a pro athlete too that would increase his chances of not being obese as he has the luxury of time, resources and knowledge many people don't. But he still has never been in anything close to what can be described as good shape.

    Going 12 rounds isn't that hard if you train and if you are allowed to fight at a pace that suits you. We've seen this with Fury, Arreola and Miller. They fought 12 rounds comfortably numerous times when allowed to fight at their pace, but when forced to fight above their comfortable pace, they gas out as expected. Many obese people can complete a marathon, none can do so under 3 hours and they would gas out and stop well before the half way point if they tried.
     
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  3. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    It's silly to say but winning the word title was a curse. The money he earned from that fight and then the rematch has meant boxing has become a hobby for Ruiz rather than a career.
     
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  4. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    Definitely a wasted talent, was/is our Mr Tubby.

    If a fighter hasn't got basic discipline and mental desire then all other attributes, no matter how good are just 2nd place.

    And Ruiz comes across, to me, that he full well knows it too but doesn't really care. He's not in any self denial here, he just pleases himself....
     
  5. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He,s got the same build as Tony Tubbs.....i don,t think that he can lose much weight
     
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  6. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    He's maybe limited to some degree in that, Heerko. In that he can never really be chiseled, so to speak. But there's plenty of timber on ruiz that really serves no beneficial purpose.

    And coming in 15lbs heavier in his very important AJ re-match tells me an awful lot about Ruiz's professionalism and serious dedication.

    He's a very likable fighter however, AND there's enough of him to go around for everyone to like too...


    :lol:
     
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  7. Boxed Ears

    Boxed Ears this my daddy's account (RIP daddy) Full Member

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    I get crazy around pecan pie and corn cakes.
     
  8. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Recent photos of Miller show he's lost a lot of weight, so it seems one of them is taking this fight seriously. If Miller can make it late in the fight he might very well have a chance of an upset.
     
  9. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    It's said he cant resist to the temptation to empty many McDonald's and Burger King that he encounters every day on the way. It's how a kind of illness by now. I think he reached the point of no return. Waste of talent.
     
  10. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    I was just about to say the same thing. He’s about 5’ 11” to 6’ (he is probably 6’ 2” with boots on) and is likely walking around at roughly 300 lbs in between fights. He’s definitely morbidly obese.
     
  11. MixedMartialLaw

    MixedMartialLaw Combat sports enthusiast Full Member

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    If he's morbidly obese while being a high level professional athlete, he'll be featured on My 600 lbs Life within 6 months of his actual retirement.

    I've generally been against the 265 lbs HW cap the UFC has, but seeing guys like Ruiz and Big Baby Miller, maybe it's not the worst thing to encourage HWs to develop at least the modicum of self control and fitness standards.
     
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  12. Guerra

    Guerra Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I never got how you can be obeseas a fighter.
    You train daily and burn a shitload of calories.
    You would need to eat so much to sctually be fat.
     
  13. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    So many fighters don't train daily, that's the problem. So many just train when they have a training camp for a scheduled fight. I recall when Amir Khan started training with Virgil Hunter and one of the things he changed was to get Khan to change between fight camps, which is why he started to improve under Hunter. But then he couldn't keep his dick in his pants, so his wife forced him back to the UK where he fell back into the habit of only training when he had a fight scheduled and so he regressed back to the same idiot fighter who relied on his physical attributes like before.

    While many of the truly top guys like Joshua, Usyk, Loma, Inoue, Crawford etc are true professionals and treat boxing as an actual career and train year round, so many others even world class fighters do not. Boxing in many ways isn't half as professional as many other sports.
     
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