Joseph Obey Joyce vs. Derek Chisora & Dennis McCann vs. Ionut Baluta II - RBR.

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  1. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I’m having trouble tracking you.

    You had it 97-92 for Joyce. How can you score it that wide and then say the other guy has an argument for a one-point win?
     
  2. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    Bro you used to practically fellate Joyce on here prior to the Zhang defeats. It's abundantly clear that both of their best days are behind them. I don't see any problem with the official cards. Joyce got hit clean with way too many big eye catching shots and got dropped on his ass. He lost this one.
     
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  3. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because I denoted 3 Joyce rounds as close, so if you gave all three to Chisora, then add in the knockdown. It's 95-94 Chisora.
     
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  4. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I had it 5-5 with Chisora winning by virtue of the knockdown.

    Insanely close fight. Very bizarre as well. Joyce refused to defend any punch in the second half of the fight. Joyce is so slow he makes Chisora look like prime Frazier.

    But Joyce was tooling Derek, he just refused to do anything other than eat those huge right hands.

    When I heard the first card though, I thought it must be Joyce getting the W, because there's no way Chisora won 7 rounds.
     
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  5. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I was straight on it, I wouldht expect anything less, I would love to know if there’s any heavyweight boxer who have taken more power shots than chisora, maybe ai could answer that.
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pro boxing is not scored by punch stats (counting punches). That’s Olympic/amateur fighting and you’re in luck because the Summer Games have begun.
     
  7. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    How do you go from KO’ing Parker in a career best performance to completely shot within two years I don’t think I’ve ever seen this level of decline so quick

    When AJ smashes up Dubois we can expect Joyce vs Dubois in 2025
     
  8. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Chisora vs Wilder.
     
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  9. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They both landed over 300 punches i think Joyce had a slight edge by landing 25 punches more overall.

    But.....as i keep saying that slight edge means nothing when Chisora was landing all the clean head snapping shots throughout the fight.

    Tell me this can you really remember any stand out punches from Joyce that made you stand up and take notice ? Joyce had workrate but for me the only eye catching punches were coming from Chisora.

    And not only did the 3 judges agree with me so did most ring side observers who had Chisora clearly winning.
     
  10. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    As you were going and before the decision you seemed pretty adamant/confident that your scorecard with the wide margin was irrefutable.

    Now you seem to be backtracking.

    No big deal, but go look at your posts as the fight went along and tell me where there’s any ‘well this is a pretty close fight, could see it going either way but I think Joe’s edged a few more rounds.’
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    I didn't properly score it, I was just enjoying the show.

    At the end I had no idea who would get the nod, although my overall feeling was it was even or 6-4 either way (not accounting for the knock down).

    I (respectfully) thought @CST80 was a bit overly generous to Joyce, but then again, some of those rounds were (in my mind) a bit tricky to score.
     
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  12. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Chisora staying tight inside no matter what Joyce is throwing is brave and smart completely taking the jab away.
     
  13. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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  14. DavidC77

    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He's the Dele Alli of boxing.
     
  15. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    You just zenned out, squire. I do it too. ( Nothing to do with red wine either!)


    You stop scoring and enter another, far deeper zone. This zone is way above plain old numbers and points scoring...no ringside judge can do this btw.


    I can't explain anymore about it on open forum as that would be a big no-no, if you're in the know...you know.
     
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