Joseph Obey Joyce vs. Derek Chisora & Dennis McCann vs. Ionut Baluta II - RBR.

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  1. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I believe you're saying "face first" fighter? If so yes, he definitely is.

    It would be hard to argue that as I agree there was no improvement, he just kinda regressed. He got slower and slower and relied on outmanning opponents. He's definitely one trick, jab-cross, block with chin.....but I think as far as stepping up in class, it's hard to say that as he has some wins that are looking beautiful with age, and his last two fights post Zhang he has looked worse.

    So I can't say his current dilemma is due to a step up in class because Parker is clearly class. I'm not high on Dubois but he's clearly bounced back quite well and is in the mix (until Joshua melts him). But "this" Joyce doesn't beat either of them at this point, hence me chalking it up to Zhang destroyed him more than anything and there being two Joyces.
     
  2. Whytesnake

    Whytesnake Armchair GOAT Full Member

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    This was advertised as a 12 round fight and most betting sites gave predictions with it being 12 rounds. Chisora wouldn’t have lasted 12. Joyce was absolutely awful. How was this man the boogeyman of the division before the Zhang fights ?
    Chisora has regressed and is nowhere near the WAR Chisora that fought Usyk ( he was even past his best then) but he showed incredible heart and spirit despite being an absolute shell of himself. Chisora being past his best and beating any version of Joyce is a massive win. Joyce heart isn’t in it after Zhang took his soul
     
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  3. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What exactly happened to Eye on the Ring ? i noticed it seemed to have shut down a few months ago but i have no idea why ?
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Yes. I am really tired too so it took effort just watching it

    Big Joe was too heavy again but he was constantly applying pressure and letting his hands go. Chisora was too but not at the rate Big Joe was.
     
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    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Still can't believe Joe couldn't get Chisora out of there in the late rounds, had him out on his feet but the follow up shots were so slow lol.

    Chisora's bobbing and weaving defense actually worked really well.
     
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    It's deed. I do have the guys email address but I haven't bugged him with it yet.
     
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    lufcrazy requiescat in pace

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    Yes
     
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    DavidC77 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I know it's dead but I don't know why.
     
  11. Power_tek

    Power_tek Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I got it level going into round 5
    1 and 4 for chisora
    2 and 3 for Joyce
    5 is close but iam going with chisora for landing the cleaner heavier shots that were more damaging
     
  12. BlackDog

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    What mean clear? Yes it look more effective but You dont win rounds in boxing because Your shots looks better.
    Special because Joe was never heart in this fight and Chisora was wobbled hard in round 7 or 8 and almost die in last rounds in ring even running from Joe like chicken in 2 moments.

    U must remeber that Most important thing in score boxing is land more than Your opponent. Other few rule like being in attack site, defence and others its just help.
    Most important is landing more.

    Joe shots might not looks best. His defence might be poor but if he still land more in more rounds Dereck not deserve win because he land nice...
     
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  13. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    @boxfap

    You was right mate and i was wrong fair play but i'm really happy Chisora got the nod so i'm happy to be proved wrong.
     
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    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: Yes

    I have an opened bottle of red near by but I haven't had a drop tonight (yet)

    I think Chisora's ring walk music zenned me out. I was already knacked before then and I think it zenned him and Big Joe out a bit too. It was a proper war but a slow motion one lol
     
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  15. CST80

    CST80 The Hesitant Nihilist Staff Member

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    Agree, I adore Shock Waves, not sure I like it more than Zombie, but they're both masterpieces, they both crack my horror top 100 and imy zombie film Top 10. It certainly helps that it was filmed in Florida, and I know the general vicinity.
     
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