Joseph Obey Joyce vs. Derek Chisora & Dennis McCann vs. Ionut Baluta II - RBR.

Lets just pretend you were right since we had such a feel good winner! I wasnt convinced Chisora was gonna win, I just had a feeling he would be too fast and nimble and might just be able to squeak the win out with some well chosen overhand rights

I predicted a Chisora win in the RBR but when I put the last of my vcash down on the site bets I picked Joyce by mistake. $0 vcash remaining

 

Round 6 Joyce worked hard but landed little chisora was bobbing on the ropes and avoided most of Joyce’s punches and landed a few of his own but iam not sure he did enough to take the round,

round 1 chisora
Round 2 Joyce
Round 3 Joyce
Round 4 chisora
Round 5 chisora
Round 6 Joyce (close)

 

Clean hard effective punching the only fighter who landed the head snapping shots all night was Chisora, Joyce had workrate but his punches were nowhere near the power or effectiveness as Chisora's punches.

Of course you can win a fight landing the more eye catching punches what ? Canelo has done that consistently throughout his career and so have many other boxers before him.

Joyce was never hurt in the fight ? did i imagine Joyce getting planted on the seat of his pants then ? or his head being snapped back consistently with right hands and left hooks ?

Chisora run like a chicken excuse me ? the man was frigging exhausted he's 41 years old with alot of milage he's been fighting world class Heavyweights for a decade. I don't think "running like a chicken" is a very good analogy to use for the heart Chisora showed in this fight.

Yes and Chisora landed the harder punches with much better accuracy hence he won in the eyes of the 3 judges and most ringside observers.

 

An opened bottle of red wine, nearby?...

You know damn well what you need to do, squire.

 

The threads knocking on to 76 pages.



Not bad at all.

 

The lighthouse from THE FOG is about an hour and a half from me, in a VERY isolated peninsula, and creepier in real life than in the movie.

 

You dont score punching power in boxing. You got KD, wobbled and others premium for punching power. You cant score someone punches better because he got more power in his shoots.
End of the day Joe can go to party after fight and Chisora looks like person who survive car crash.

Running like chicken... I mean this part where he give his back and going thru the ring not wanting being close to Joe Joyce. U cant do it in boxing and he done it at last 2 time.

I dont said that for sure Joe should win. I want punch stats because it can help me judge situation. I think Joe most of the time was offensive site. He land and throw more probably. He got Chisora visible heart and fighting for his life in the ring.

If punch stats will be close then Yes, more visible, better defence Chisora deserve win but if IT will be like in Pulev 2 fight where he was outlanded in 8 from 12 rounds and in 1 was tie then why should I had him winning? Because Joe eat more visible punch?

That's not how we score boxing.

And Alvarez is very bad example. He got very bad decision vs GGG with that perspective and for me it was very wrong.

Good night.

 

Just because people have a different opinion no need to call people "loons".

I've seen some questionable scorecards from you aswell mostly recently Canelo vs Munguia which you scored for Munguia which i thought was an outrageous scorecard.

But it's different opinions everyone sees a fight differently, but i certainly don't think scoring this fight for Chisora means i'm a "loon". Considering most ringside observers seem to agree with me as do the 3 judges. And i would say more people in this thread believe Chisora won than lost.

I certainly think Chisora has a better argument to winning than he does of losing.

In a 10 round fight where Chisora scored the only knockdown and landed all the eye catching punches. It's pretty hard to not see Chisora getting the nod IMO.

 

Wow just wow

 

The judges are ‘easily impressed casuals,’ MOST of the people on this forum who scored for Chisora (not just the ones who had it wider, your word was ‘most’) are ‘loons.’

Sounds to me like you’re saying you’re the expert here and anyone who sees it differently than you is doesn’t know anything about boxing … including the judges, lol.

You also posted that having Joyce win by one or two points was acceptable … but obviously didn’t carry that over to say ‘or you could reasonably have given close rounds to Chisora and had him winning.’

The waffling after to say suddenly ‘well of course the loons could be right, Chisora could have won’ is what threw me. You seemed confident enough that your score was infallible that anyone seeing Chisora winning was a ‘loon’ and the judges were ‘easily impressed’ (by things your keen eyes saw right through, haha) … then you switched directions.

Maybe don’t be so dismissive of people who see it differently than you. Especially when the judges and from what I could tell online the press covering the fight — are they all just easily impressed loons? — all agree the guy you had losing won.

Honestly seeing some of your posts as the fight went on, you seemed more keen on scoring which guy was fresher and ‘looked less tired’ than on who was winning the actual fight. Maybe focus on the action more going forward and you’ll get it right. A tired-looking fighter can be beating a fresher-looking one (especially one who gets caught by every telegraphed punch).

 

round 1 chisora
Round 2 Joyce
Round 3 Joyce
Round 4 chisora
Round 5 chisora
Round 6 Joyce (close)
round 7 Joyce
Round 8 Joyce
Round 9 chisora
Round 10 chisora (could have gone either way)

I don’t know how to score round 9 chisora got the knock down so 10-8 but Joyce had the better of the round, so is that a 9-8 chisora (that’s what I would think is the correct way to score it)
Or is it a 9-9 surely that’s not possible?
So I think it’s chisora depending on how that round is scored

 

Chisora is mustard. Now I’m going to go enjoy the post fight interview’s chisora is a gem