Joseph Obey Joyce vs. Derek Chisora & Dennis McCann vs. Ionut Baluta II - RBR.

In 2 moments. Not in whole fight. Relax dude. I must post it to You this moment when he turned his back and ran to the other end of the ring? You even cant do it in boxing (turn back to opponent)

Dont read it like "whole fight Chisora was running".

Last 3 rounds he was fighting for life.

 

Of course you do what ? i would say most judges look at which boxer is landing the harder more effective punches ?

And Chisora scored the only knockdown in the fight ? and was the only fighter consistently landing head snapping punches ? which is all the criteria's of scoring a fight and which is why Chisora won the fight in the eyes of the 3 judges and most ringside observers.

He's 41 years old and has had a significantly harder career than Joyce of course he's more likely to gas. But he still showed the courage to stay in close with Joyce and score a huge knockdown.

Punchstats are not always accurate and you can't just rely on inaccurate stats to score a fight. Just watch the fight and look at the fighter who was landing the head snapping shots and that was Chisora.

Chisora did have a better defense....well if you can call it a better defense. But Chisora landed at a siginificantly higher percentage than Joyce. And yes as i keep telling you judges often score fights on eye catching clean hard effective punches that is one of the criterias for scoring a fight clean effective punching.

 

If judges will be score punching power then Wilder should win decision with Fury. Klitschko same.
Because they land little less but for sure they punch harder.

Its not work like that. Joe punches dont look soo clean but still make more damage. If also he land more in more rounds You just cant give him decision
Boxing its not about winning because punch more specktacular punch in round. Its about land more.

 

Yeah I’m pretty much of the same opinion but I’m trying not to be biased in a way.
He might not have ever been a world champion but he will be in the granite chin conversation for generations to come, the heart of that man is just ridiculous.
I want him to stop as much as I want to watch him.
He will have to be declared medically unfit to fight for him to stop, he won’t retire until it’s to late I fear.

 

Wilder barely landed on Fury my guy outside of a few moments.

Chisora was landing on Joyce consistently throughout the fight.

I don't know why you've got this idea into your head that judges don't score fights based on which fighter is landing the harder more effective punches of course they do. Most judges i would think would look at which fighter is landing the more effective cleaner punches and that was clearly Chisora.

As i keep saying It's one of the criterias for scoring a fight.

 

It was definitely a 10-8 Chisora round. I can almost promise you that if you look at the judges’ individual scorecards (and I haven’t yet, as it doesn’t look like they’ve posted to boxerec) that they all scored it 10-8 Chisora. Short of landing a knockdown of their own, the fighter that got knocked down has to just have an absolutely amazing round for it be scored anything but 10-8 (and the judges will usually still score it 10-8 regardless).

 

I guess I’m missing the posts from people saying Chisora put on a masterclass. In fact, your scorecard indicates that you think Joyce did.

But don’t mind me. I’m just another loon.

 

In that case I would give it to chisora based on the knock down being the decisive point, but if I didn’t sit and score the fight then I would have given it to chisora but by a wider margin.

 

No.
You score fighting first and most important after who land more. Off course You got jab and power punches but if someone outlanded You in both u dont give rounds to other because he land more effective punch.

2 punch from Joyce even if not soo clear and visible is more than 1 punch from Chisora.

If we will be judge for people who land nice boxing will be much different sport.

And this more clear shoots done nothing to Joe and opposite Chisora was hard wobbled and fight for his life.

That's why Hrgovic win decision with Zhang. He landed more. You dont give rounds to person whos shoots looks better...

 

A lesson to you for future fights always go with your gut instinct mate!!!!!

Honestly i did underrate Chisora a bit i still think he is completely past it, but Joyce did look very unimpressive in his last fight. I guess i just kept imagining the way Joyce steam rolled Parker and i didn't think Chisora would have the energy levels at 41 years old.

But boy did he dig deep in those last few rounds that knockdown was a real life Rocky moment!!!!!

I'm not ashamed to say i was jumping up and down like a kid excited for Christmas after that knockdown what a fight.

 

It’s the 10-point must system. So the winner must get 10 points. (If there are deductions by the referee for fouls, I’ll get to that later.)

Whoever you have winning that round gets 10 points. Period. The loser gets 9 or fewer. So if you think it’s a one-point round, 10-9 … if you think it’s a two-point round with the knockdown, it’s 10-8.

Generally speaking (there’s a lot of variables), winning most of the round doesn’t turn a knockdown round into just a 10-9 for most judges. The guy scoring the knockdown has done serious damage, enough to topple the opponent, which is more than what Joyce was doing had the round ended without a knockdown and giving him a 10-9. So most would score that a 10-8, although it’s not mandatory.

If Fighter A was absolutely battering Fighter B much of the round and had him on the verge of a stoppage and then Fighter B landed a big shot for a knockdown, that would be more likely a 10-9 for Fighter B. I don’t think that was the case here.

Also, sometime there’s a true flash knockdown (which a few here have used that term for this knockdown but I don’t think this was that) — like maybe a guy is off-balance and a jab tips him over, or he takes a glancing shot and goes down but bounces right back up … in most cases a flash knockdown clearly does zero damage and the guy is up at 1 (or at least quickly), bouncing and ready to wade back in. In that case, maybe Fighter A is winning the round, suffers the flash knockdown and thus Fighter B wins it 10-9 (you still have to recognize the knockdown in his favor). Again, I don’t think that’s the case here.

NOW, as noted above, when a point is deducted, the judge score the round as normal. Let’s say Fighter A wins the round 10-9 but the referee deducts a point for a low blow. The point is then subtracted from his score (the scorecards actually have a column for this (or at least the ones I’ve ever seen do) so that would become a 9-9 round when it’s added up because there’s a -1 noted next to Fighter A’s score.

Hope that helps.