How did Parker lose to Joyce ?

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  1. PistonHondai

    PistonHondai Active Member Full Member

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    What did Parker do wrong?
     
  2. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Came in too heavy and was too willing to trade.

    Wrong tactics entirely.

    Joyce on his day wasn't a bad fighter, and Parker has definite off days.
     
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    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Parker has said he came in sick with a bad flu.

    But also his tactics were wrong
     
  4. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    How? Parker's not really that good and fights in a weak era maybe?
     
  5. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was his style on that night.
     
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  6. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He thought he was facing a slow fighter and found out the hard way he'd made a terrible miscalculation and that he was actually facing a slow-fast speed one

    And obviously when any non Brit steps up to Brit Level they're always going to find the waters a lot more choppy

    Big Joe, AJ, Chisora, Whyte. Hughie, Massey all gave him 10-12 very tough rounds but when J-Park stepped down in levels and fought The Dosser he won every round at a canter
     
  7. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wrong gameplan, wrong weight, flu apparently. That and Joyce always had his arguments.
     
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  8. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Everyone throwing out various excuses while all I can think is: "Because Joyce was actually good?"
    Zhang ruined Joyce and now he is underrated because of it.
     
  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    How did he lose to Chisora and need a gift SD to bail him out?

    To answer your question, styles make fights. Parker isn't all that great against relentless pressure fighters who he can't hurt, while he excels against slow footed low output guys who he's faster than.
     
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    TMLT87 Active Member Full Member

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    Joyce had a good chin and a good motor for such a big guy. That meant he could keep applying sustained pressure to break people down.

    Basically...he was actually quite good. Then Zhang (and maybe age too to some extent) ruined him.
     
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    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Simply came in too heavy and with the wrong tactics. While what he did worked with Chisora it was all wrong for Joyce.

    That loss in part led to the success we are seeing from Parker now. Under Lee they were clearly trying to make Parker into the big bruiser who would try to walk down fighters but he never had the power for that so we saw a change in style for Wilder and Zhang and it paid off. Which says a lot about Parker, that he can learn, change and adapt from a loss.

    I'd favour Parker now over Joyce. He would try to box him this time, try to take away the jab which would make Joyce far less accurate and probably wins a decision.
     
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  12. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    You're right

    The Joyce loss was the disaster that Parker needed to revolutionize his game

    Onward and upward
     
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    TheWizard I Got Milk Baby Full Member

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    Because it was simply a terrible style matchup for Parker. Not enough power to hurt Joyce, not enough stamina to keep up with him and not a good enough mover to just avoid him.

    Also, Joyce's jab was really ****ing Parker up, even early on.
     
  14. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    because parker and his team arent that good. joyce is about as simple a style as you will face at world level, and team parker was too weak to prepare for it. if you need multiple tries to figure joyce out, you suck.
     
  15. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Timing is everything, he met him at the perfect time, Joyce was on form and Parker wasn’t great at the time.