2024 Crawford vs 2013 Mayweather

Floyd beat a 22 year old Canelo who was tailor made. Canelo arguably lost to Lara and definitively lost to Floyd and Bivol. Those three fighters all excel in ring IQ, defense, and fighting on the move. Most importantly they dont press the action without a constant and disrupting jab. Evidence to support that is 154 Floyd won a closer fight versus 154 Cotto and Canelo is a superior fighter than Cotto, but styles make fights and Cotto wouldve always been tougher than Canelo (for Floyd).

Madrimov has an interesting style. He's low output and has a very disruptive rhythm with lots of inconsistencies meaning his style is "awkward" and "unique". Any kind of thinking fighter, Floyd, Bud, Lara, etc. would have difficulty dealing w that skillset because he's less predictable.

And to be clear being predictable does NOT mean one is bad. When GGG and Spence fought fans and fighters knew what was coming, but its very hard to stop it. GGG has a case for being undefeated outside of his 40+ year old fight w Canelo and Spence was undefeated outside of a camp where he may have been weight drained.

I still felt 2024 Crawford had a great fight. Madrimov was just better than majority of people expected. Madrimov is large (natural 154er) and in his prime at 29 years w low wear and tear. Crawford's experience earned him the win w a little more activity, but dont be surprised if Madrimov makes a splash over the next few years.

I'd take Crawford (2024) over Floyd (2013) that beat Canelo although, admittedly, I'm probably a Crawford fanboy and have long stated Bud wouldve beaten Floyd at 147

 

Terence Crawford. Just much physically stronger and the power is not comparable.
The speed gap isnt that wide in Mayweathers favor.

 

I agree with most of that. I also agree Floyd and Canelo was a closer fight than generally talked about...much the same way Floyd Manny was. Floyd clearly beat Canelo and Manny even wide on scorecards but individual rounds were competitive with Floyd edging them especially in the Manny fight. Both Canelo and Manny may have lost rounds by as little as a couple of punches but that happened in the majority of rounds.

And youre correct that Floyd fought Cotto differently but I think part of that WAS Cotto. And Cotto outright won more rounds against Floyd even though Floyd actually had Cotto in trouble in spots while Manny and Canelo were never in trouble...just a bit behind in most rounds.

To put it simpler, Floyd used an amateur scoring approach versus Manny and somewhat Canelo and adopted a more bruiser beat 'em up pro style against Cotto.

I think Crawford has the same results in those three fights against THAT Canelo and THAT Cotto and THAT Manny. 2009-2010 Manny wouldve been very interesting and IDK that outcome (for Crawford or Floyd).

Floyd that fought Cotto at 154 wouldve been in very hard against Madrimov at 154...IDK who that wins

 

Part of that is because Floyd is always looking to evade and counter while Bud is actively looking to hurt and stop. Just different approaches.

Bud has used the upper movement and evade style in the past (Postol fight) but he actually prefers to exchange and trade.

 

All this is simply so wrong lmao. To act the fight happenin' later benefitted more Fraud than Cotto is deadass being naive, never understood where this narrative of Cotto winnin' against him came from if the fight happened before. Appreciate Cotto, but the outcomes of the fights he had with Pac and FMJ decisively express the difference between an ATG and an HoF.
Mayweather is also older than Cotto, he called Cotto's camp years before to organize the fight but both him and Arum disagreed because he was "too green" or something. At 140 is Mayweather by KO. Also by 2012 Fraud was out of his prime too and in a weight class where he always looked a bit little and shaky like the Oscar fight proved.
And nope, the Clenelolose fight wasn't close either.


Returning to the subject of the topic, I'm really conflicted. Mayweather didn't fight enough in those weights to assess a judgment of mine and hell, even a draw wouldn't be so impossible to happen. I would have loved to see this, leaning towards Mayweather SD.
It could be something very competitive like the De la Hoyayo fight where Floyd might have been dragged in deep waters.
Both fighters aged beautifully in their late career and I'm glad Crawfraud was finally tested.

 

The appropriate response to pretty much any shadow111 post - especially when involving the subject of Canelo.

 

It's so hard to compare but I rate the version of Canelo Floyd faced above the version of Madrimov Crawford faced.

And Floyd won 12-0, Crawford won 7-5.

But very hard to compare. I don't really disagree with anyone saying Crawford. But if someone put a gun to my head and forced me to answer that answer is Floyd

 

I dont know. They had different styles. Floyd moved well against Pacman a couple years later. Crawford seems like he's still able to move when he needs to.

I'm not sure