Scored it 8-4...Crawford last night. After rewatching realized I was wrong.

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  1. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    Today I had to clean up and switch out some equipment in my gym before starting the new month.

    Decided to sit down and watch the fight without the commentary. I trust my own experience and expertise over the nonsense that was being quoted at times last night.

    I am rewatching the fight for the 3rd time as I'm typing this. It's pretty crazy how in real time, I could have scored this fight so incorrectly. 8 to 4 Crawford was my "in the moment" scoring.

    After watching this fight again........I have chosen to change my score to 10 to 2 Crawford...... And that might be generous.

    Utilizing slow mo, rewinding. Paying attention to actual landed shots...... No Crawford didn't dominate Madrimov like he did Spence or Horn, but this fight wasn't as close as many are suggesting it was.

    One thing I have noticed outside of the overuse of feints, I notice, Madrimov never attempted to throw a single combination until the 7th round. There was never a single moment in which Madrimov landed and Crawford didn't respond with the same amount or more. I'm now looking at the Compubox numbers and it's nothing more than laughable.

    I'm looking at the rounds and then looking at the stats according to Compubox, and I'm puzzled on how it is, they have Madrimov out landing Crawford in ANY ROUND let alone any rounds before round 8.

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    Madrimov had his moments landing a clean straight on Crawford. Though it looked to have little effect on Crawford's approach, it was a great moments for Madrimov.... Mainly looking at the 8th round, which I feel is Madrimov's best round.....it was also the round in which Crawford damn near crumbled him with a couple counters.

    At most I am able to say there were 3 swing rounds, but I'm interested in what round anyone believes that Madrimov "clearly" won.

    A win is a win, but suggesting Crawford barely beat a man who gave more feints than actual combination is beyond crazy to me.
     
  2. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    Yeah, bud was in total control 90% of the fight. People see things all wrong, then get gassed up by trolls who make them believe their own bull. Next thing you know there’s a whole alternate reality bubble thinking they got an argument. It’s a recurring theme.
     
  3. Forza

    Forza Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well you're in the minority, it was a close fight
     
  4. kevin-novice

    kevin-novice Active Member banned Full Member

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    The judges don't get to rewatch it
     
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  5. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    I was born a minority, you think that's supposed to keep me quiet..... I said what I said. Crawford whipped that boy. Everything I stated can be easily seen in the fight. You telling me a man who didn't attempt to throw a combination until after half the fight was in the books had a close fight. A man that was clearly stunned and had his knees buckle at least 4x after the 7th round had a close fight.....Please.

    Y'all hate Crawford so much, y'all wanted him to look less of a great. Y'all want Madrimov to be the guy to expose Crawford that y'all super excited when he had a little success. He lands a clean punch,,,,YAY!!!!!.....but then he gets countered with a 3 punch combo......CRICKETS......lol.
     
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  6. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    Your point is?......... I'm not one of the judges, nor am I campaigning for them to change their cards. I stated that "in the moment" I still had it at 8 to 4....CRAWFORD..... I thought it was laughable when I saw how close the cards were. But a win is a win. Unanimous. And the New...... That's all that matters.

    I'm simply pointing out that from what I saw, without the campaigning for Madrimov that the commentators were doing before the fight even started, I was able to focus on the actual work in the ring and it wasn't even as close as I SAW THE NIGHT OF.....
     
  7. SweetButteryLou

    SweetButteryLou New Member Full Member

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    Yeah I thought Sergio mora was trippin acting like Madrimov was putting it on him most of the fight . I didn’t see that I had Crawford clearly winning
     
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  8. zelky

    zelky Well-Known Member Full Member

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    It's refreshing to see someone admit they were wrong...because there thousands of dumb mother****ers out there who still think they are right.

    Your boxing IQ will improve drastically over the long term with the knowledge you will pick up by admitting this to yourself now.

    All the other mother****ers are never going to know **** and just love being bitter about something...so it don't matter in the long run.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    This is a different kind of cope thread than I regularly see. Sounds like a therapy session/circle jerk filled with Bud Crawford fans, trying to convince themselves he did waaay better than he actually did. They can't come to terms with the fact that he proved to be very beatable and quite human the other day, instead of this mythical slick untouchable monster who'll 12-0 Canelo, that they've convinced themselves he is. If you tell a lie long enough, you'll convince yourself and others it's the truth. When in reality, all it's doing is proving you can't score worth a damn, and don't really know what you're looking at. It's landing the punches that counts, not just throwing a ton of them. You all are starting to sound like those daffy casuals that had Ricky Hatton ahead in his match against Mayweather.:lol: For what it's worth, I have no problem with anyone saying Crawford won, but by a round, maybe two if being generous. That's it.
     
  10. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    This is the same situation as Haney vs Loma - a very vocal group claiming Haney clearly won, when any objective person can see that Loma won. Crawford vs Madrimov was a closer fight so scoring it 10-2 requires complete bias.

    To set the record straight - boxing is completely corrupt and the promoters and governing bodies decide the world champions. There are a group of overrated A-siders whose records are padded with cherry picks, judging gifts, and are sanctioned to be as inactive as suits their avoidance strategy. Canelo and Floyd are at the top of the list. Add Ward, Bradley, Haney, Teo, Tank, Charlos, and after Saturday, one can now add Crawford to that list. He passes the eye test, but his record is so padded that it is no longer funny.
     
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  11. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Such a stupid comment. Almost all objective people says Crawford legitimately won a close fight. The majority think he won. Nothing like Haney/Loma. Keep Crawfords name out of that list of privileged A side fighters, the score cards were just fine. They were close and reflected the fight correctly.

    115-113
    116-112
    115-113
     
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  12. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    There are quite a few who don.t like Bud but maybe the reason why some had Madrimov winning is b/c he fought a much better fight than what many thought he was capable of.
    It was his 11th pro fight after all and he did make the Crawdad look human at times.... which is something he hasn't looked in a while.
     
  13. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    I havent seen the fight but maybe it a case of "Madrinov wasnt expected to do much so we are giving him more credit than he deserves?" like when Hagler and Leonard fought in my case. I thought Sugar Ray was at risk of actually dying there, his eye and all.l And I ended up scoring it for him that night, 118-111.

    Now Im more in the 114-114 range.
     
  14. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    You beat me to it!
     
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  15. Lecowas

    Lecowas ... Full Member

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    Yeah you're absolutely right. He was only feinting all night, he doesn't want to engage and people said he won. Yeah, they won't re-watch the match but they'll argue with you a million times more.

    Any one objective enough knew whenever madrimov came out of his shell, Crawford made him pay. Apart from the single straights , I never saw anything special. He got wobbled several times but clinched immediately