BoxRec to no longer recognize the WBA

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Badbot, Aug 9, 2024.


  1. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Well-Known Member Full Member

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    This, 100%
     
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  2. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    According to Boxrec, Ali was never stripped of his WBA heavyweight title for his stance on Vietnam, never had his boxing license revoked, and there was never a WBA Heavyweight Elimination tournament, which was won by Ellis.

    Could've swore I saw something on that. Oh well. Great job, Boxrec.
     
  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Guess who didn't become the youngest champion at 17? Wilfred Benitez.

    According to Boxrec, Antonio Cervantes was never champion. Never won anything. So there was nothing for Benitez to win.

    Mike McCallum was never champion at 154 or 160.

    Virgil Hill went from engaging in nearly 30 title fights and winning titles in two divisions ... to winning just one title fight ... against Henry Maske.

    But that's better than Eddie Mustafa Muhammad. Who never won a title.

    Sounds about right. :dunno
     
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  4. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    No, boxrec should remain, even their shitty ranking system is fine. They are an important library of boxing history.
     
  5. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They just altered boxing history for the last 60 years.

    Other than that, I guess.
     
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  6. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Yea, I do agree with that.
    But if boxrec were to close today, we would loose an immense amount of data on fights. I rather have boxrec remain a broken, biased site that still shows the fights that happened. At least until something as good or better comes along.
     
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  7. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This has to be temporary. Boxrec is reacting to a organization that is trying to gobble them up. It is however a complete misrepresentation of the boxers and boxing history to not give boxers credit for winning WBA titles, or credit for defenses. If they dont give the boxers credit for the WBA title's, they shouldn't give credit for any, especially the IBO.
     
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  8. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Who knows, maybe boxrec can get sued for misrepresentation. All legitimate titles or no title's at all mentioned.
     
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  9. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    History matters though.
     
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I don't think it is a good source of data now.

    Knowing who's the champion and how many defences they made is a starting point in assessing a fighter.

    If I wanted to debate Khaosai Galaxy now, with someone who has no idea who he is, they would start by checking his boxrec, maybe then checking his Wikipedia, and then checking year end rankings. Once you have the stats you can watch the fights with the context.

    But now all that is gone.
     
  11. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    But thanks to boxrec we know about every fight Galaxy had. We know the dates, we know the opponents and we know the outcomes.
    This is the important part that I am talking about.

    Boxrec is the biggest collection of boxing data and history, if we lost that then we would loose a lot of history.
    Boxrec still has info about the WBA on individual athlete pages. https://boxrec.com/wiki/index.php/Floyd_Mayweather_Jr.
    I wonder for how long tho.
     
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  12. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If there was a tournament to establish a true champ in each weight and from here on out have one champ, i would be fine with that, but history has to be maintained. You know, like mentioning back in the Alphabet era and so on.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Partial information can be more harm than a lack of information imo.
     
  14. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    OK. Shut down boxrec, now what?
    What happens all of the boxers who don´t have a wikipedia page? All of that history is gone.
     
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  15. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The good news is I'm not sure this applys to the boxer rec wiki which has the REALLY valuable hard to get stuff. Which is seperate from the main boxing rec site. But wouldn't surprise me if these monsters purge that too but it seems like it would be a lot of work.
     
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