Usyk welcomes a potential 3rd fight with Joshua

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  1. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    What level?
    They both fought Usyk who was top level
    Outside of Usyk as number 1, it is Fury and Joshua which would imo be the next biggest test for either
    Neither beat Usyk
    I used to think Fury would beat Joshua but could see it either way now and don't think Fury will be in any rush to fight Joshua for some reason
     
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    I think Usyk is being a class act here, as he usually is. AJ made Usyk a big name, he also put him on the path of making big money. Meanwhile, AJ has been keeping busy and successfully rebuilding. If AJ beats Dubois, and Usyk beats Fury again, then i'd argue that it's fair that AJ have a shot at the rest of the belts. Usyk as the upside giving AJ another shot would essentially be Usyk returning the favor that AJ had given to Usyk. I just hope it's a more eventful fight than the first two.

    Win or lose, I'd hope Usyk retires afterwords. He's getting older, he admits to struggling to maintain his heavyweight physique, he seems like he wants to spend more time with his family and country, and he's clearly done enough to go down as the best and most accomplished fighters of his generation.

    AJ on the other hand has a few years left. Win or lose, he should definitely fight Fury after Usyk 3. I'd also like to see Bakole in the mix after that.
     
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  3. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Halfway through round 7 Fury looked like he was well in control against Usyk.

    Usyk then turned it around, upped it a gear and took over the fight, winning a glorious decision to unify all 4 belts.

    The skill Usyk displayed in that fight is far beyond anything AJ has shown in his career to date.
     
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  5. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm not disputing how impressive Usyk was. That is not a dispute but to think Usyk is getting an easy fight in fighting Joshua when he will be even older and knowing how the rematch was tough, is where I am disputing what you are saying.
    Although I scored the rematch to Usyk, it was a SD result and a tough fight
    For you to think it is low risk when Usyk is going to be older is what I am surprised about.

    Consider you are saying Joshua has fought soft opposition since losing to Usyk, yet that same opposition Joshua went through, gave Fury tough fights, and you are basing Usyk having an easy nights work against Joshua because Usyk won a tough fight over Fury who was coming off tough fights with the same opposition
     
  6. lufcrazy

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    Like I said, low risk, high reward
     
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  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In what world is it fair giving AJ a third shot at the titles against a man who beat him twice when other contenders are taking on better opposition and not getting title shots?
     
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    Yes, I understand the argument that AJ's last 4 fights weren't against the greatest of opponents.

    But assuming AJ beats Dubois, then AJ would be the co-world champion. It's for the good of boxing and the fans to have the belts unified.

    Also, assuming AJ beats Dubois, who would more rightfully deserve a title shot?
    Joseph Parker? AJ beat him.
    Zhilei Zhang? I could see him getting a title shot sometime soon, but before AJ just for beating a washed up Wilder and the overrated Joe Joyce? No.
    Hrgovic? He lost to Dubois.
    Bakole? He's not there yet. But I bet he will be in a little bit.
    Kabayel? Ok, maybe.

    And frankly, Usyk didn't "destroy" AJ. He beat him, yes. But the second fight especially was very close. A more confident AJ could potentially turn the tables.

    Also, AJ is the biggest earner in the division. Usyk deserves to go out on another big money fight, if he wants to.
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

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    The unified belt argument doesn't hold water because Usyk dropped the IBF voluntarily. Both AJ and Dubios have already had their crack at Usyk recently, so it's time to move on to the other mandatories.

    Parker is clearly the most deserving of the bunch after Fury.
     
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  10. HistoryZero26

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    An undefeated HW career with just 3 title opponents and a bunch of rematches is so strange. And thats what we're likely looking at. Fury 2, AJ 3 and maybe even Dubois 2. Usyk is unlikely to fight a new opponent ever again.

    I'm at a point where I just want to see Usyk fight literally anyone else. Kabayel, Bakole. Parker, Anderson, Zhang. Anyone but the same 3 guys from the same island.
     
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    I hope Dubois smashes him so this fight don't happen
    I want to see Kabayel Usyk
     
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I know what you said and you are entitled to your opinion, it's just you have said something that you struggle to completely justify when some facts were put forward.
    Each to their own
     
  13. lufcrazy

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    I have justified it. Since their last fight Usyk has continued to fight at a higher level than AJ. Usyk is entirely superior to AJ. AJ has only one hope and that is Usyk gets old overnight.

    Don't conflate justifications you disagree with and not justifying at all. It's intellectually dishonest.
     
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  14. like a boss

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    Hard to see any good reason why Usyk and Joshua should meet again. Other than money of course and for Usyk it is low risk, high reward.
     
  15. Metrics

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    It's a bit annoying that Usyk only fights Brits now.

    We actually have a decent WORLD heavyweight scene right now.
    Parker (New Zealand), Zhang (China), Kabayel (Germany/Turkey), Ajagba (Nigeria/US), Huni (Australia) ....
    .... but they want to re-cycle a fading crop of 'British heavyweights' for Usyk's last few pay-days. Guys he already beat.