Evander Holyfield vs Rocky Marciano 190lbs limit

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  1. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    You did - Let’s work section by section if you want for a bit of fun.
    Will you give Marciano that “point”? I’m not trying to sound like a jerk - rereading that post.
     
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    Clearly I do.
     
  3. Journeyman92

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    I didn’t see it in the post you tagged me in. Where does Evander succeed Marciano for skill IYO? One point at a time preferably.
     
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    Holyfield wouldn't get caught big and if he did, he would fight on and survive. CW Holyfield would beat Marciano, especially after the learning experience of the first Qawi (who would be a hard time for Marciano himself) fight as another poster mentioned. He would be bigger, stronger, more technical, as tough if not tougher, and is the more proven man against the better fighters. Marciano would have a bad time getting hit by Holyfield and would probably be stopped by the round 10 imo considering how much damage he incurred against smaller, lesser punchers.
     
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    How do you know he is stronger?
     
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    That is interesting maybe he meant grappler, inside fighting manipulator? could be some truth to that.
    Evander Holyfield was no doubt among the strongest heavyweight champion in terms of sheer strength / lifting potential. Juiced up, working with bodybuilders benching in the high 300s for sets of 10 that’s about as strong as Wlad. I can only think of “Rockman” Rahman as stronger than those two.
     
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    Whatever the flip moringa is, what that's supposed to do for you, this fight would do a lot of the opposite of that for both of them.
     
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    Well for one thing Holyfield's footwork is much more refined than Marciano. People do vids on it like this for a reason:

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    In what way is it more refined in your own words?
     
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    Because he is, highest KO ratio with a reason.
    Also Rocky was walking heavy, was heavy man before boxing while Holyfield started in amateurs like a small LhW.
     
  11. mcvey

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    KO percentages have zip to do with strength.

    Holyfield was stronger than Tyson and Ken Norton remarked on how much stronger Holyfield was than himself. Marciano's percentage was for the most part scored over smaller men and several of them older.
    At under 190lbs Holyfield stopped

    Tillman189lbs
    Qawi 190lbs
    Parkey187 1/2lbs
    Mutti192lbs
    Ocasio190lbs
    As a heavyweight he stopped.
    Dokes 225lbs
    Rodrigues 221lbs
    Thomas 222lbs
    Tillis210lbs
    Tyson222lbs
    Moorer234lbs
    Neilsen 238lbs
    Maddalone 234lbs
    Stewart 213lbs
    McDonagh212lbs
    Douglas 246lbs
    Cooper216lbs
    Czyz211lbs
    Bates 2251/2lbs
    Botha 250lbs

    And he floored top chins like Mercer and Bowe
    Where are Marciano's equivalent scalps?
     
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    This is funny because on a different thread I said there wasn't a boxing clinic that Holyfield couldn't turn into a war.

    original question:
    There's only one person that has smaller physical dimensions than Holyfield that I think could beat him at their most prime..........Tyson. I would go with Holyfield but wouldn't be all that comfortable with my selection.
     
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    Seamus Seamus Seamus.......
     
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    We need videos on Galento's footwork
     
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    Bates weighed 1.2 tons???