Evander Holyfield vs Rocky Marciano 190lbs limit

Walcott was HW Charles was but Charles was the greatest LhW, Spinks who was LHW beat Holmes what about that?

Foreman was 43 when Holyfield beat him after 10 years layoff and Holmes was even older, had 2 years layoff.


They were not better than Joe Louis that fought Marciano.

Still same size difference and Usyk beat him, Fury is taller and heavier than Foreman.

SMW/LHw Qawi with less reach/height gave Foreman problems and he couldn't hit or take like Marciano.

 

Ali was knocked down by 185 lbs Cooper and was dropped by 205 lb Frazier, also Sonny Banks another LHW gave him problem.

Holmes was beaten twice by LhW Spinks and Foreman was beaten by two smaller fighters than him.

 

But he had it, he was SMW and small LHW, nothing bigger than that.

 

Toney was too against Holyfield but he was just SMW.
And Marciano is naturally bigger man than those two.

 

Holyfield. He outlands Marciano at will, then takes him out in the latter rounds.

 

Again you somehow fail to comprehend Walcott and Charles are not Heavyweights by modern standards they're 180 pound fighters. Which have no relevance to Marciano fighting bigger strong Heavyweights who are 40-50 pounds heavier i don't know you can't understand this when i've repeated it like 5 times.

No one is saying smaller fighters can't beat bigger fighters but you have look at styles, Michael Spinks is close to 6'3 with a 76 inch reach and had good movement and a very tricky style which was tough for fighters to really land on Spinks cleanly.

Marciano is a slugger not a mover and he has an incredibly small reach as i said styles. Marciano's whole style was to fight aggressively on the front foot and over power his opponents and wear them down. How is Marciano going to be able to achieve this vs much bigger and stronger Heavyweights ? it makes no logical sense based on his size or style.

Foreman and Holmes both outweighed Holyfield significantly Holmes had 23 pounds on Holyfield Foreman had 49 pounds on Holyfield. Both fighters were extremely durable and only ever stopped once in their entire careers by two ATG Heavyweights Ali & Tyson.

Holmes was coming off his best performance/win in years vs Ray Mercer.

Foreman was on a 23 win streak and 22 of those fights were by stoppage.

No that's not how it works my guy because Usyk and Marciano are polar opposites that's a very poor comparison.

Usyk is a Southpaw with great movement and is a master boxer.

Is Marciano a master boxer and one of the best technical fighters ? no.

Does Marciano have great movement ? no.

Is Marciano a Southpaw ? no.

Again you fail to no comprehend how styles work in boxing Usyk is a master boxer with great speed, movement, technical ability. Hence he's able to outbox bigger guys based on all of those attributes.

Marciano is a slugger who's flat footed with a narrow stance and a incredibly small reach, he can't replicate Usyk's performances because he can't outbox bigger opponents he has to rely on his aggression and power and that won't be successful vs much bigger stronger Heavyweights.

 

The 90s versions of Foreman and Holmes were not only certainly better than the Louis that Marciano fought, but they also would've beaten Rocky, too.

 

No one is saying smaller fighters can't trouble bigger fighters but you have to look at the attributes and styles of each fighter.

Holmes lost to Spinks who had good movement and a tricky style aswell as being close to 6'3 with 76 inch reach.

Foreman lost to Young who was a tricky defensive fighter, Holyfield bounced around the ring firing off rapid like combinations, Morrison fought an ultra defensive fight vs Foreman.

Marciano has slow feet a very small reach and fights on the front foot he doesn't have the ability or attributes to outbox bigger elite Heavyweights.

 

A totally shot version of Holyfield who was in his 40s and Toney is much more skillful than Marciano with a considerably better defense.

Toney was also a 205 pound quarterback before he become a boxer so you're talking nonsense.

 

I’d be quite intrigued to see 90’s Foreman vs Marciano.

 

If we can find some proper look alikes on the forum, we can replicate what might have happened.


*Looking for one short white guy, and one tall black guy. *Not for porn.

 

You'd be surprised. That slick hit to the jewels followed by headbutt combo?
Papa Rocky invented it 40 years earlier

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