125 days till Tyson Fury cements himself alongside Oleksandr Usyk

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  1. Duck

    Duck New Member Full Member

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    And you think Usyk won't improve ?
     
  2. ash234

    ash234 Ash Full Member

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    Hopefully Usyk sends him into retirement and we never have to listen to the Fury family ever again.
     
  3. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    You are simply disagreeing with me which is OK, but you shouldn't present your opinion as fact. In my eyes it was close, but clear.

    I still think Fury has a decent shot at winning the rematch, and presents the biggest problem to Usyk out of anyone on this planet. But yes Usyk should be favored, and he more than likely wins.
     
  4. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    You nailed it, thanks
     
  5. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Now Usyk knows he can hurt Fury badly I think Usyk will be even more dangerous and might take more risks to get Fury out of there this time. Since Usyk probably doesn't want to go to scorecards again as the judges almost robbed him of a victory.
     
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  6. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Usyk was dangerous as he could be in the first fight. both fought to the best of their abilities on the night fighting a fairly specific gameplan. It came down to execution and Usyk executed the better fight after coming out of a tough spot with the nose popping punch and Fury making a horrible mistake (low 1,2 no defence) leading to a triumphant few rounds which pretty secured him victory. Anything can happen in the rematch, if Fury trains through this summer and is fitter with more focus he can do the job.
     
  7. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Big "if" mate.

    Fury has never been that guy. The guy who gives it everything, gives his absolute all. The reason he's never been that guy is because his talent was such that he never had to.

    Now you think a loss is enough to change decades of bad habits, buffets, drugs and lord knows what else?

    My brother in christ people have been saying for years "if" Fury maintains training discipline, "if" Fury stays in shape, "if" Fury beats the drugs, "if"....

    I guess hope springs eternal.
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think Furys only chance is to finish off Usyk within first 7 rounds because he doesn't have the output or stamina to live with Usyk in the 2nd half of the fight.

    I still don't understand why all these bigger men like Fury and Joshua keep trying to box with the master boxer. I mean sure Usyk has some underrated pop but you have to roll the dice take a chance and be aggressive and attack him.

    That's how Breidis gave Usyk a close fight and that's how Chisora gave Usyk a rough night.

    I know Fury has to be careful because Usyk can hurt him badly with counters as seen in the 1st fight. But you have to think you are the bigger man assert your size and attack the smaller man.
     
  9. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Fury was boxing pretty well with the master boxer in till he got tired round 7 onwards. Usyk himself was extremely tired but had an edge. Fury has the gift that he can play the boxing game with Usyk. It's about striking a balance. Always going to be a tough fight for both. Against AJ all Usyk has to do is not lose focus. Against Fury he had to give everything he had and pace himself to perfection to win rounds. Pretty sure he took some of them mid rounds as breather rounds where Fury really worked him over. I felt bad For Usyk in that mid fight, it was looking rough for him.
     
  10. Mugen38

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    Fury will NEVER be fitter than Usyk!

    128 days until you have a complete meltdown when your hero is battered & knocked out
     
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  11. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The thing is, it IS fact. Boxing matches are judged on certain criteria. Fury won four rounds at most, as I broke down. And there was the knockdown.
     
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  12. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Boxing scoring is subjective, we both know this. I had it closer, you did not. If you feel that your opinion is superior, cheers to you.
     
  13. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is only subjective to an extent, and there were seven rounds by which Fury could not have been said to have won in any metric. One other was debatable.
     
  14. James Hudson

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    Got tired round 7 onwards? Considering he done nowt in rounds 1 and 2 then that effectively means he got tired after doing just 5 rounds!! Hardly inspires confidence for the rematch when the so called unbeatable force of yesterday is spent having boxed just 5 rounds
     
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  15. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    1 year out. Francis farce. Lack of activity and age on both usyk and furys part made them both get tired more than normal including having to box at a high level throughout.