Christian M'billi-Assomo Hallier vs. Sergiy Vyacheslavovich Derevyanchenko - Round by Round.

No Dorrian you are talking out of your anus if you think Berlanga,Munguia or Mbilli are bona fide legitimate contenders rather than Beterbiev, Bivol orBenavidez. Youre just trying to find excuses why Canelo has turned into Donald Duck so blatantly that is PATHETIC

 

Couldn’t catch the fight last night but just caught the replay this morning and was about to say this. Hasn’t the guy also had around 400 amateur bouts? Idk how his handlers can be so naive when it comes to his health.

 

Watch the highlights just now of the Vianello-Makmudenov bout. The Russian was still twitching his next after the fight was called off by the doctor. Dang....see a chiropractor or somebody and get that neck fixed!

 

Just finished watching Mbilli vs Derevyanchenko. Was very sad watching SD getting punished so much, probably the most damage he’s gotten in his career. Saying that though he still showed how much of a warrior he is by staying on his feet and fighting till the very end, even exposing Mbilli’s flaws.

Time for the Technician to call it a day. He’s done more than enough for boxing and has given fans great fights.

 

I watched the Vianello and Mbilli fight highlights because the ESPN + app is a pile of manure and their tech support is awful. Glad Vianello got a win as I was feeling like he was going to be a perennial hard luck guy. Derevyanchenko is that perennial hard luck guy.

 

Beterbiev and Bivol aren't ranked at 168 and both hold titles. Canelo already fought Bivol anyway, how can he be ducking a guy not in his division who he's already fought? I never argued they were legit contenders because they're both champions in a division Canelo does not currently campaign in. Berlanga, Munguia, and Mbilli are all top 10 contenders at 168 as recognised by The Ring, TBRB, and the sanctioning orgs. How would you argue that any of them aren't legit contenders?

 

It´s neurological, he can´t really do anything about it.

 

Just rewatched the first round and it kind of backs up everything I was saying. The first punch of the night Derev threw was a stiff jab which Mbilli avoided and immediately countered hard. The second time he used his jab was as a probe to mask his straight right, which landed. The third time he used his left hand was another single stiff jab which Mbilli avoided. The fourth time Derev uses his left hand he leads with probing uppercut and throws a probing jab immediately after which lands- Mbilli dipped to his right after this so Derev should’ve followed up with a straight right but instead he follows up with a single harder jab and misses.

So the first four times in the first round that Derev used his left hand it showed what I was saying before, that it was much more effective as a probe to occupy Mbilli and set up a follow up rather than actually as a hard punch he was trying to score with.

Now the left hook- the first left hook he landed WAS a hard one so you have a bit of a point here. He leads with a right hook to the body then follows up with a hard left hook to the body and a lighter one to the head whilst he circles out.

After this though he again throws a probing jab and follows up with a straight right which again lands. The next time he uses his left hand he throws a probing left hook then a probing right hook and then two probing jabs before disengaging, this sequence of probes occupied Mbilli and caused him to put his guard up and begin slipping punches which would’ve given Derev a safe opportunity to follow up with something hard if he had not disengaged immediately after the probes.

Now left hooks again. In the first round, besides the single hard left hook to the body that Derev landed the rest of them came in the second half of the round and were probing left hooks intended to occupy Mbilli either to set up a follow up or two create a safe opportunity for Derev to circle out. He had success doing both of these things off the back of them. There were one or two counter left hooks in there as well but none landed clean and none were hard.

Remember this is just a breakdown of the first round but immediately a trend of left hand probes being much more effective and frequent than harder left hand punches has been established, which was my point in the first place. Now I’m going to rewatch the rest of the fight and I’ll get back to you later.

When I rewatch, if Derev’s probing decreases significantly after his injury then I’ll change my stance and say that yes the injury was a huge factor. But from what I remember he was still probing a lot after the injury and had plenty of success doing so especially in those mid rounds which he won.

Btw I’m not rereading this before posting so if anything doesn’t make sense just let me know and I’ll rephrase/provide time stamps if needed.

 

I think Derev might have been injured going in.

 

Somebody else said that yesterday and I think it’s a real possibility but I’m sort of on the fence

 

I had it 7-2-1 for Mbilli. I also think that his corner should have stopped it because of his injury, so he can fight another day.

 

It was obvious to me. They wanted that fight to go as long as possible. no one seemed to care about the beating the poor guy was taking . The ref made him see the doctor every time & the ref seemed to resist stopping the fight himself . I just hope the poor guy is OK.

Derev has been robbed blind of late He wins a fight the judges rob him

 

Mbilli is more dangerous than Berlanga and Mungia. Berlanga is a can. Mungia is similar to Mbilli but he is not as physically strong, and has shown to be very vulnerable in previous fights like going life and death and almost knocked by dervachenko. For that reason I am not sure Canelo will risk fighting Mbilli. He wants opponents who offer zero threat.

 

Yeah I’m only into the fourth round and I’m watching chencko whipping hooks and uppercuts on repeat with one arm (he lost the round though but turned out I’m not blind or do I have amnesia)
But I rewatched chencko v ggg last night and scored it in favour of ggg but I was sure chencko won that fight until I rescored it, it was close but I think I was probably influenced by seeing ggg actually hurt.

 

I haven’t rewatched the whole thing yet but I rewatched the first round earlier and I did a breakdown which was pretty much exactly in line with what I saw yesterday, I’ll paste it below:

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Just rewatched the first round and it kind of backs up everything I was saying. The first punch of the night Derev threw was a stiff jab which Mbilli avoided and immediately countered hard. The second time he used his jab was as a probe to mask his straight right, which landed. The third time he used his left hand was another single stiff jab which Mbilli avoided. The fourth time Derev uses his left hand he leads with a probing left uppercut and throws a probing jab immediately after which lands- Mbilli dipped to his right after this so Derev should’ve followed up with a straight right but instead he follows up with a single harder jab and misses.

So the first four times in the first round that Derev used his left hand it showed what I was saying before, that it was much more effective as a probe to occupy Mbilli and set up a follow up rather than actually as a hard punch he was trying to score with.

Now the left hook- the first left hook he landed WAS a hard one so you have a bit of a point here. He leads with a right hook to the body then follows up with a hard left hook to the body and a lighter one to the head whilst he circles out. But the single left hook to the body was ultimately the only hard left hook he landed in round 1, and actually the only hard left handed punch he landed.

After this though he again throws a probing jab and follows up with a straight right which again lands. The next time he uses his left hand he throws a probing left hook then a probing right hook and then two probing jabs before disengaging, this sequence of probes occupied Mbilli and caused him to put his guard up and begin slipping punches which would’ve given Derev a safe opportunity to follow up with something hard if he had not disengaged immediately after the probes.

Now left hooks again. In the first round, besides the single hard left hook to the body that Derev landed the rest of them came in the second half of the round and were probing left hooks intended to occupy Mbilli either to set up a follow up or two create a safe opportunity for Derev to circle out. He had success doing both of these things off the back of them. There were one or two counter left hooks in there as well but none landed clean and none were hard.

Remember this is just a breakdown of the first round but immediately a trend of left hand probes being much more effective and frequent than harder left hand punches has been established, which was my point in the first place. Now I’m going to rewatch the rest of the fight and I’ll get back to you later.

When I rewatch, if Derev’s probing decreases significantly after his injury then I’ll change my stance and say that yes the injury was a huge factor. But from what I remember he was still probing a lot after the injury and had plenty of success doing so especially in those mid rounds which he won.

Btw I’m not rereading this before posting so if anything doesn’t make sense just let me know and I’ll rephrase/provide time stamps if needed.
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Anyway I just went and watched the 4th round and Derev was using his left hand in the exact same way as he was in the first up until about the mid point of the round where he completely stopped throwing it.

Fifth round now and in the first half Derev is pawing constantly with his left and again having a lot of success setting up harder punches from his right. But again in the second half Derev starts pawing a lot less, which could partly come down to Mbilli closing the distance more and making Derev more wary to probe with his left and leave himself open but there’s definitely also a physical aspect preventing him from using as many probes as he was in the first round and the first half of rd4 and 5 respectively.

Im not gonna bother rewatching the rest, I think RD1, 4 and 5 are enough realise that he was still using his left hand in more or less the exact same way after the injury, he was just doing so more sparingly/in spurts because of the injury. Definitely had an impact but hard to say how much of one.