Sonny Liston vs Mike Tyson

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  1. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My opinion of the fight outcome;

    Liston:

    Pros:

    Sledgehammer jab

    Big fists (more accuracy)

    Massive power

    Much scarier

    Bigger

    Taller

    More reach

    Stamina

    Cons:

    Not super fast

    Moderate handspeed


    Tyson:

    Pros:

    Fast on his feet

    More explosive

    Hand speed

    Extreme aggression

    Slips better

    Solid chin and huge neck

    Massive power

    Accurate

    Cons:

    Stamina is questionable

    Gets frustrated after some rounds Struggles against opponents who aren't scared Can't fight well outside of mid range.

    Rounds 1-6: Tyson goes for the KO, may drop Liston once or twice.

    Round 7-12: Tyson gets frustrated and starts getting hammered

    Result: Late stoppage or decision to Liston.
     
  2. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    Liston is a bad matchup for Tyson.
     
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  3. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    Tyson has a better chance against Sonny than Frazier, Dempsey, Marciano and other swarmers do. His speed, chin, outside game, size with regard to weight are relevant factors here, though I do favour Liston.
     
  4. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Frazier I dunno, Dempsey yeah but Marciano is like 50/50.

    Like Tyson could get frustrated so could Liston if he don't KO someone inside early or mid rounds.
     
  5. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I think Marciano gets obliterated in the worst possible fashion out of the bunch. He doesn't have the speed factor the others do
     
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  6. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Yes but Tyson ain't Patterson.

    He's bigger, faster, stronger, harder puncher, more agressive, better defense, can use jab and uppercut better...
     
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  7. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    They said the same when Holyfield faced Tyson but when someone is not afraid and could punch and also has granite chin it wouldn't be easy fight that's for sure.

    If Liston don't KO Marciano in first 4,5 rounds he would get beaten in later rounds.
     
  8. Melankomas

    Melankomas Prime Jeffries would demolish a grizzly in 2 Full Member

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    I would say Dempsey might perform better than Frazier against Liston, primarily due to how insanely explosive and fast he is early on in a fight. Liston had competent defense but he was hittable and while that's never a good sign against Dempsey, I think Liston could probably take what Dempsey dishes out and counter him effectively. I don't think Jack can take Liston's shots
     
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  9. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jack is good finisher tho, if he smells blood he'll jump him like a maniac since he had great punching power not just handspeed.

    And Jack is known to beat bigger guys than him, he had more problems with smaller fast guys that could move but with big guys he could fight very good.
     
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  10. swagdelfadeel

    swagdelfadeel Obsessed with Boxing

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    You shouldn’t have gone there. :lol:
     
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  11. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Liston was too good a boxer (overall better in that department than Foreman and Frazier for sure). He could acclimate to his opponent's style. He also could not he intimidated.

    Mike shakes the hell out of Liston early on, but the latter cools out and applies the jab. Mike gets a smashing right uppercut when he tries to come in, staggering across the ring but Liston remains patient. From this point Mike gets cautious, and that's what loses him the fight.

    After round after round of having his whole day ruined by the jab, Mike gets struck by a thunderous right and left hook, counted out in 9.
     
  12. BoxingFan2002

    BoxingFan2002 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think it would go that way but the stoppage would be a bit later like 12th round stoppage is the right choice.
     
  13. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I like this. I've said repeatedly, peak Liston wasn't just a mindless slugger, he was a polished BOXER with excellent technique and skills.

    But I'll repeat myself again ... peak Mike Tyson on a given night could (emphasis on could, not would) beat any heavyweight who ever lived.
     
  14. FrankinDallas

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    If Liston could be intimidated by Ali, imagine how he would act with Tyson in front of him.

    Liston quits round 3.
     
  15. SonnyListon>

    SonnyListon> #1 Sonny Liston fan Full Member

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    What the hell did I just read…
     
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