Rank these heavies in terms of their top ten wins

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Rank them. For example, I rank them...

    Usyk
    Joshua
    Fury
    Parker
    Ruiz
    Whyte
    Wilder

    Here are the contestants with their suggested ten best wins...if you feel I was wrong, insert other names. The important thing is the ranking.

    Any criteria you like...maybe you don't think Usyk's cruiserweight work doesn't count...or that Fury should not be able to get away with three wins over Chisora...or that Joshua's demolition of Ngannau had symbolic value and you want to add that one...

    Maybe you think one great win is better than five good ones, or vice versa. Up to you entirely.

    Whose got the best top ten!

    JOSHUA
    WladKlit
    Parker
    Povetkin
    Ruiz
    Whyte
    Martin
    Pulev
    Wallin
    Breazele
    Helenius

    USYK
    Fury
    Joshua I
    Joshua II
    Dubois
    Chisora (if automatically listing heavies first as most relevant)
    Briedis
    Bellew
    Hunter
    Gassiev
    Glowacki

    FURY
    WladKlit
    Wilder II
    Wilder III
    Whyte
    Chisora I
    Wallin
    Cunningham
    Chisora II
    Chisora III
    Kingpin Johnson

    PARKER
    Ruiz
    Zhang
    Wilder
    Chisora II (he didn't win the first and I am not including it)
    Meehan
    Takam
    Leapai
    Hugh Fury
    Botha
    Dimentenko

    RUIZ
    Joshua
    Ortiz
    Arreola
    Austin
    Dimentrekno
    Franklin Lawrence
    Kingpin Johnson
    Liakovich
    Joe Hanks
    Tor Hammer
    Devin Vargas

    WHYTE
    Parker
    Povetkin
    Chisora II
    Chisora I
    Rivas
    Lucas Browne
    Helenius
    Wach
    Franklin
    Hammer

    WILDER (if he's still fighting)
    Ortiz I
    Ortiz II
    Stiverne I
    Arreola
    Duhapuas
    Breazele
    Washington
    Helenius
    Szplika
    Stiverne II

    I don't think anyone else would be worth looking at, even as an academic exercise.
     
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  2. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk
    Fury
    Joshua
    Parker
    Wilder
    Whyte
    Ruiz

    Wilder and Whyte can be swapped around
    Joshua and Parker can also be swapped around, depending on how much you value Parker’s top 3 wins
     
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  3. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    In terms of heavyweight Usyk wouldn't be number one. Cruiserweight is arguably an easier division to fight at, and it would be inconsistent for a comparison.
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Thanks.

    So please give us your ranking of the seven fighters.
     
  5. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Agree w your list except Fury over AJ
     
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  6. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Is that based on his win over Wlad being better, or because you rank Wilder highly, or otherwise?
     
  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Just wanted to point out that you're unfairly giving Usyk a higher rating by including Cruiserweight victories. I'm not really interested in the rest.

    Besides, reading your opening post it's clear you're weighing the scales in favour of AJ by hinting at including a 0-1 novice for "symbolic value" while removing Fury's victories over Chisora who's had a good victory as of late.

    I'd like to also point out Parker has two victories over Chisora, not one. Despite it being a close fight he still got the official nod.
     
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  8. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Uh, definitionally, it cant be unfair, because you are asking to rank their wins. You could put Usyk last, if you want. And, I specifically said, "Any criteria you like...maybe you don't think Usyk's cruiserweight work doesn't count..." Well, bad grammer, but you get it.

    It's been debated to death--I rank the cruisers and that is that. To me, wins over cruiserweight champions are better than the wins over the Lorenzo Zanons, Scott Leduexs, Francesco Piantas, Eric Molinas, and Johny Davis of the world. If you don't then put Usyk last because if it.

    But no, there is no issue of fairness, because, if you want to participate, YOU can rank him as you like by your criteria.

    Also, you can give Parker two victories over Chisora, because, AS I SAID, these are suggested wins. Your top ten might be different from mine, as explicitly stated.

    Here are the contestants with their suggested ten best wins...if you feel I was wrong, insert other names.

    I like you as a poster. Hope you choose to participate under the idea for the thread as I spelled out.
     
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  10. Mark Anthony

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    Usyk ranks the highest cause he beat AJ and Fury, he ranks the highest by some distance. Then AJ cause he beat Whyte, Parker and Ruiz, The only reason Ruiz gets any clout is because he beat AJ, he and Fury rank quite well, Fury cause he beat Wilder, Deontay doesn`t rank anywhere cause he lost to Parker and Fury, Whyte`s ranking should be far lower along with Wilder cause he lost to AJ and Fury, awful resume.
     
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  11. Mark Anthony

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    Ortiz was a good win for Wilder but he was getting his ears boxed off before he landed KO shots.
     
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  12. Potwash

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    I have the ranked the exact same as op

    1 - Usyk
    2 - Joshua
    3 - Fury
    4 - Parker
    5- Ruiz
    6 - Whyte
    7 - Wilder
     
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  13. SimonLock

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    Best 10
    Fury
    (Klitschko, Wilder, Whyte, Wilder, Chisora, Chisora, Chisora, Hammer, Wallin, Johnson)
    Joshua (Povetkin, Klitschko, Pulev, Parker, Ruiz, Martin, Wallin, Helenius, Takam, Breazeale)
    Usyk (Fury, Joshua, Joshua, Chisora, Dubois, 5 wins at Cruiser)
    Ruiz (Joshua, Ortiz, Dimitrenko, Liakhovich, Johnson, Arreola, Hamer, Davis, Willis, Austin)
    Wilder (Ortiz, Ortiz, Stiverne, Szpilka, Breazeale, Washington, Duhaupas, Helenius, Harrison, Stiverne)
    Whyte (Povetkin, Browne, Parker, Rivas, Chisora, Chisora, Helenius, Franklin, Allen, Minto)
    Parker (Wilder, Zhang, Takam, Chisora, Meehan, Chisora, H Fury, Ruiz, Dimitrenko, Minto)

    Very close in my opinion between Fury and Joshua, but considering Fury should really be given another win over Wilder that was ruled a draw, he gets the nod. Fury has a stronger Top 5, Joshua has a stronger 6-10, so it depends what you put more weight on. Usyk hard to place as he's had so few heavyweight fights, but he's clearly arguably #1 depending on how you weight the cruiserweights.
     
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  14. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How would you rate the cruiser wins, since it was brought up earlier?
     
  15. bjl12

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    Mostly Wlad win plus better version of Wallin and no cringe loss to Ruiz
     
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