COULD PRINCE NASEEM HAVE BEATEN MARCO ANTONIO BARRERA IN A REMATCH ?

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  1. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    He definitely could’ve beaten Barrera a couple years earlier. Considering that he fought once after Barrera and looked like crap, there’s not much evidence that he would’ve come in with better form for a rematch.

    His power would still give him a chance though.
     
  2. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    No in a word.

    There is a reason why Hamed retired when he did.

    He was one of the richest men in the sport, and his family wanted him to get out of the game.

    When a fighter is thinking about retirement, then rest kind of becomes inevitable.
     
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  3. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes, when his face collided w/ a turnbuckle.
     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    No, not a rematch. I think if it happened a couple years earlier, he could've won though.
     
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  5. Boxing_Fan101

    Boxing_Fan101 Undisputed Available bookgoodies.com/a/1068623705 Full Member

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    The issue with Naz was that rather than spend your camps preparing for a fight and honing tactics etc his camps were basically fat camps
     
  6. IntentionalButt

    IntentionalButt Guy wants to name his çock 'macho' that's ok by me

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    Yep, same later with Hatton.
     
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  7. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The greatest moment in sports.
     
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  8. FreddieGibbs

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    Definitely not in a rematch. If the fight had happened sooner who knows, but I rate Barrera highly and would make him a very clear favourite still
     
  9. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It’s an interesting fight in that you could argue it ruined both fighters.
     
  10. jabber74

    jabber74 Active Member Full Member

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    I don't think so. Of course when you could punch as hard as Hamed could, there is always a chance. Regardless of what condition Hamed was supposedly in, I think he went as far as he could go. I don't believe you take a fighter like him and change his style, or teach him to box "properly", or conventional. His awkward, unconventional style is what made him successful in the first place. Barrera stuck to the game plan, boxed him, and didn't engage him in a shootout. No trainer was going to change Hamed and make him better.
     
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  11. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    no. Haseem dropped his hands his whole career. He would be open for Barrera again
     
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  12. bolo specialist

    bolo specialist Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What would be the argument for Barrera being ruined?
     
  13. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Probably not an argument I would make per sé, but certainly Barrera’s success with that particular style totally changed his outlook on fighting, & IMO set him up perfectly to be pummeled by Pacquiao in a way he wouldn’t have been, stylistically, in the years prior to Hamed.

    That first loss was so comprehensive that it turned Barrera into little more than a runner for their return fight a few years later…quite the fall from what he had once been.
     
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  14. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I would say the Barrera who fought Junior Jones the 1st time who was more gung ho and aggressive would get KO'ed by a prime Hamed.

    Barrera had to fight a very disciplined cautious fight against Hamed and even then it wasn't quite the blow out people make it out to be. I had it 7-4-1 for Barrera with the even round being the point deduction in the 12th round.
     
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  15. Dynamicpuncher

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    I don't agree Barrera already suffered a convincing loss to Junior Jones in their 1st meeting. And then tried to adapt a more cautious counter punching style in the rematch way before the Pacquiao fight.

    Barrera also used a more cautious style vs Morales in their 2nd fight. That's just Barrera trying to adjust his style for a rematch it has nothing to do with Pacquiao.

    Barrera unlike Morales or Marquez probably didn't know how good Pacquiao was at that time. Pacquiao shocked Barrera by how fast and how good he was. Obviously people in the know knew Pacquiao was good, but the Barrera fight was the first time it was really showcased in a big fight. Hence Pacquiao really arrived on the world stage after that win and then Marquez, Morales, had better knowledge and knew how to prepare better unlike Barrera who was caught more off guard.