Jerry Quarry: I would have beaten Rocky Marciano

Agree 100%.

 

Quarry beat harder punchers than Marciano Lyle, Shavers, Foster. And has a good win over a still good version of Floyd Patterson who is on par with any of Marciano's best wins at Heavyweight.

Quarry did get beat up by Frazier who was a swarmer like Marciano. But Frazier is bigger than Marciano by a good 20-25 pounds.

I see this as a very competitive fight if Quarry is at his best and sticks to his counter punching style like he did vs Lyle.

 

I think Marciano would have a hard time beating Patterson let alone stop him.

 

Quarry could box on the back foot and counter punch that's how he beat a bigger Heavyweight like Lyle by outboxing him.

Marciano doesn't fight on the backfoot and doesn't outbox his opponents he comes wading in aggressively swarming all over his opponents.

Hence he wouldn't be as successful with that style with his size/reach vs much bigger stronger elite Heavyweights.

 

It’s a competitive fight for about half or so of a 15-rounder. I can agree that far.

 

Not impossible but also unlikely.

 

Theres few things I don't like about Quarry in this match up he lost to Chuvalo who was a tough rugged brawler. So if Quarry gets caught by Chuvalo then he can certainly get caught by Marciano.

But that stoppage was kind of strange I don't know if you've ever seen it. But Quarry got caught then went down and seemed totally coherent but he got up too late and lost the fight. I don't think Quarry was seriously hurt and as I said he seemed totally coherent but it was strange anyway.....

Quarry also lost to a swarmer in Frazier but again Frazier is considerably bigger than Marciano which has to be taken into account. But Quarry's record vs somewhat similar opponents to Marciano is 0-3 which doesn't fill me with alot of confidence.

But Quarry has beaten bigger punchers than Marciano and as I said his win over Patterson is on par with Marciano's best wins. I think Patterson even at that stage in his career is as good H2H at Heavyweight as Walcott, Moore, Charles.

It would be a a very tough match up for Marciano but over 15 round distance I just can't see Quarry lasting. If it was 12 rounds then maybe theres an outside chance for Quarry but over 15 I can't see it.

 

The Chuvalo defeat was odd & I don’t strongly hold it against him assessing this match. It did happen though, so it would be wrong to completely dismiss it.

 

marciano wasn’t too small for 1970s heavyweights but he is certainly far too small to compete against the likes of Lennox Lewis, Klitschko Brothers, Fury, Bowe.. 6’6 260lb athletic men

 

patterson likely deserved the nod in the first Quarry fight, and quarry barely squeaked by him in the rematch. Marciano was dominant knocking all of his hall of famers out. Even if you think a late 60s Patterson beats World Heavyweight Champion Jersey Joe Walcott (which I don’t agree with)…Marciano let no doubt in victory much more emphatically than Jerry did

Geez..you embellish Frazier’s weight advantage over Marciano. Marciano weighed 185-189lb in title fights. Frazier weighed 203lb vs Quarry. Seems more like a 15-18lb difference. Only one inch height difference. Frazier also was a one armed fighter (albeit an amazing one) while Marciano could knock your head off with either fist. Strength wise…Marciano was considerably stronger than Frazier given every opponent who shared a ring with Marciano claimed he was by far the strongest they had ever fought…while Frazier embarrassed himself at the athletes strength competition

Marciano doesn’t compare to Lyle in any way other than toughness

Chuvalo and Frazier compare well to Marciano. Quarry went 0-3 against these men and was stopped in all three contests

bad matchup for quarry

 

yes and Chuvalo was a predictable porous plodder with feather fists compared to Marciano at his peak. Watch round 6 vs Moore..quarry ain’t surviving that round after round toe to toe. Not happening. And yes, quarry would be drawn right into a brawl like Frazier I

 

Patterson went on to fight 5 more years and had good performance vs Ellis that most felt he won.

A convincing points win vs Bonavena.

And a competitive fight vs Ali in their rematch that was pretty much even on points until the stoppage.

Walcott never fought again after the Marciano fights and was right at the tail end of his career, i would say Patterson vs Walcott is a close match up.

Marciano had more convincing performances but not against elite 200+ pound Heavyweights.

But saying all that i still pick Marciano over Quarry.

25 pounds is an over estimation on my part but 20 pounds isn't.

Frazier weighed 205 pounds for the best performance of his career vs Ali and has weighed up to 209 pounds in other notable performances vs Foster. I wouldn't say it's a stretch that Frazier could possibly have a 20 pound advantage vs Marciano if they fought.

Frazier didn't have proper form for lifting weights and probably never did stuff like clean & jerk in his life. Frazier had different type of strength he lived on a farm for alot of his life and was strong in other ways.

I never said he did i was pointing out Quarry's success vs bigger punchers and bigger men.

Yeah i agree and i said exactly the samething above which is one of the reasons i favour Marciano.

 

I think you’re right if we’re talking about the supposed thoughts of Rocky coming back at an advanced age. Prime Rocky … I’m a Patterson fan but I am not insane.

 

This …

 

Jesus Christ, would you take a pill or something!? I picked Marciano.