Anthony joshua is one of the biggest frauds in boxing

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  1. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    As champion his SOS was closer to Tyson Furys and Wilders then his fans would have you believe and his reign included the Ruiz loss. Theres a ton of hypocrisy. Despite this events since he lost the belt make him look like he was the best of the trio all along. AJ fans were wrong about his title reign they were right about him being the best HW(before Usyk came along).

    Ngannou was an unscored knockdown away from being the lineal HW champion of the world. Wallins only loss was a competitive fight to Tyson Fury. Hearn had AJ fight those guys specifically to elevate AJ above Tyson Fury H2H without fighting him and it worked. AJs not the champ besides Wilder who was he supposed to be fighting?
     
  2. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    CW or not Gassievs only prior loss is to Usyk and hes one of Usyks best CW opponents. Also for most of history 2 198ers would be a clear cut HW fight.

    Breazeales only 2 other losses were AJ and Wilder.
     
  3. Lecowas

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    Parker is no threat to AJ. He already beat him once, so u got to deal with that. Wilder and Zhang are no boogeymen. Joshua already beat a better fluidy and powerful version of Zhang, scoring a KD within 2 rounds. As for wilder, lol. Ngannou should deal with him soon.

    Plus AJ is no more the champion, he can fight anyone he likes. You lots should go on and troll the lots of canelo, inuoe who doesn't honor their mandatories and no one dare ask them.
     
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  4. Kiwi Casual

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    Spoken like a true coward. Should Ruiz have refused a rematch with AJ on the same basis? Fighters change, and in AJs case it's not for the better. Seems to have lost his balls post Usyk 2.

    Couldn't care less about Canelo and Inuoe tbh. I mainly follow HW.
     
  5. Jab in the Face

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    This fight will tell alot because Daniel Dubois although he'd pass as a legit retar d talking to him he can fight and is a huge step up on AJ's last 4 opponents so it'll be interesting.

    I'm taking the value and going Dubois by KO at $6.
     
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  6. Serge

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    He's not a fraud at all. His Olympic gold medal was fraudulent and with the exception of one or twice he's fought on a deck heavily stacked in his favour.

    He's never given any of his beaten opponents a rematch and he categorically doesn't deserve a third shot at trying to defeat Usyk

    But other than that, in terms of in ring accomplishments. he's had a great career, has one of the best resumes at HW, and he's either 2 or 3 greatest HW of his generation
     
  7. Jab in the Face

    Jab in the Face Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who was close enough to deserve a rematch apart from Klitchko?
     
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  8. Serge

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    He's 1-1 vs Fat Andy, including getting bounced up and down off the canvas like a yoyo and stopped by him in their first fight, and the J-Park fight was closer than the judges had it

    But that's neither here nor there because neither of the Usyk fights were close, corrupt judge's cards aside, and not only did he receive a rematch against him but they're acting like he deserves a trilogy fight against Usyk

    If AJ were to beat J-Park again in what alternate reality, dimension or universe would he ever have to face him a third time? It would literally never happen and had AJ beaten Usyk twice Usyk would never be given a third opportunity at trying to beat him
     
  9. bailey

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    On a bit of a side subject but after Fury had a tough fight with Ngannou. Do you think it would have been a big fight and/or tough fight for Parker if it had have been him having that fight (with Ngannou) rather than Joshua?

    I don't think many boxing fans were really overly interested in Fury as a champion fighting Francis when the Usyk fight was out there, but wonder if there was a bit more interest in the Joshua fight as he wasn't a title holder and people tend to look at respective performance's.
     
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  10. Kiwi Casual

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    Can't say whether it would be a big fight money wise, but I feel Parker would have opted to simply outbox Ngannou. I would also have heavily criticized Parker for taking the fight.

    Fury typically struggles with opponents he shouldn't on paper. It's not justification for AJ facing them in lieu of Fury himself or other, higher rated opponents.

    This whole "but AJ isn't a title holder so he can take easy fights" is a bit of a cop out too. If you're not willing to fight the best then go ahead and hang them up.

    There is no excuse any boxer inside of the top ten giving Ngannou a fight in the first place, let alone fighting him after he lost.

    Fingers crossed Dubios knocks AJ clean out. Unlikely though that is.
     
  11. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Gassiev hadn't scored any good wins at heavyweight and hadn't scored a notable win in more than 5 years. One should reasonably expect Gassiev to have to do something at heavyweight to prove himself but he never did.

    Breazaele not having more losses seems like a poor argument given his competition. You can't lose to people you never fight.
     
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  12. bailey

    bailey Loyal Member Full Member

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    I wasn't trying to justify the fight, just asking your opinion.
    I am not sure the fight was supposed to be easy per se as it had been a tough fight for Fury when it wasn't expected to be.
    I didn't like the match up for either (Fury or Joshua) but do think there is a difference in a world champion making that fight to a contender but do agree with you

    Do you think Ngannou was a better or worse opponent than Helenius?

    I don't think Joshua is looking for easy fights. Provided his fight with Dubois happens, come the end of September, will have fought 3 fighters in the Rings top 10 and champion list at HW which is joint top for most amount with the champion.
    I know the names can shuffle quickly and that is not a be all etc, but does show that he takes tough fights

    I think Francis's physical strength gave Fury a tough time
    I think it was amazing that Usyk beat Fury the way he did as Fury is very good as a bigger stronger fighter
    I think Fury would have a tough time against some of the big physically strong HWs who may not always excel
     
  13. Kiwi Casual

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    I would consider Helenius to be better than Ngannou because Ngannou was a 0-1 novice, and Helenius was a professional boxer.

    It's worth noting Helenius came off a KO1 loss against Wilder too.

    Franklin was a reasonable comeback fight after back to back losses and Wallin was top 10 at the time (though it would have been better to face Wilder on that card). Fair play to AJ for taking these.

    There was no real excuse for Whyte/Helenius and Ngannou imo, and they were never going to be particularly tough fights for AJ given styles. It's resulted in AJ getting an easy title shot when there are other more deserving contenders.
     
  14. Lecowas

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    You don't get how things work,about Ruiz, he doesn't call the shot, otherwise he wouldn't have given AJ the rematch. He was actually threatened with a lawsuit before he cooperated.

    Even Parker doesn't seem to have the zeal you got for the rematch. Y'all littered everywhere with how Wallin is gonna smoke AJ and Ngannou gonna smash him but wanna pretend nothing happened after he did a fine job.

    Parker ain't getting no rematch, he is feather fisted, has a boring style, slow and lost to Joyce. no one will pay for the rematch except you so I doubt it ever gonna happen.

    I will prefer AJ fight Fury, Zhang, Kabayel, Bakole and even Joyce over Parker.
     
  15. Kiwi Casual

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    Justify cowardice all you want. Parker is the one fighting tougher opponents.