Did Tyson really duck Lewis in 96?

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  1. NewChallenger

    NewChallenger Member Full Member

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    I know about the 4$ million dollar step aside money, And Lenonx on Twitter litterally flaunts this around.

    The problem I have with Tyson supposedly ducking him in 96, is Tyson's sparring partner,literally knocked Lewis out in 94 and Lennox didn't avenge that loss until 97. So why would Tyson duck Lennox when the KO loss he had would give him all the confidence in the world
     
  2. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The flipside is that Lewis destroyed Ruddock, who gave Tyson a tough go.

    But honestly, I don't think Tyson thought he'd lose to Lewis, just that he saw better risk/rewards out there. Holy, for one. Which of course turned out to be one of the great miscalculations.
     
  3. Smoochie

    Smoochie Boxin' dreamer Full Member

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    Tyson wanted easy money once out of prison bro and didn't want all that smoke
     
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  4. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    Don't think he ducked Lewis too.
    It was the rivalry between Showtime cable TV (whom Tyson had an exclusive contract with) and HBO (whom had an exclusive contract with Lewis) that prevented the fight to be made.
    There were several offers made to Lewis (from 10 million dollars to 18 million for supposedly all belts) which he rejected, opting for the step-aside money.
    Lewis' camp also offered Tyson 45 million to fight on HBO cable, which was also refused.
     
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  5. NewChallenger

    NewChallenger Member Full Member

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    The Holyfield fight had been brewing for 6 years so I guess that makes sense.

    But I don't really think Lewis fight with Ruddock would affect Mike's thoughts about that, because he knows what brutal fights does to people and he had beaten the crap out of Ruddock.

    I just don't see why Mike, as lennox said, would duck him when his sparring partner KO'ed him easily
     
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  6. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    Tyson also destroyed Bruno who was a difficult opponent for Lewis.
     
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  7. Wladimir

    Wladimir Active Member Full Member

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    He had a better chances than in 2002 but imo Lewis would beat him also in 1996.
     
  8. Smoochie

    Smoochie Boxin' dreamer Full Member

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    I know it wuz many years before but Lewis gettin' the better of Tyson in like their 2nd or 3rd sparring session when they were both younger might have been a thing.
     
  9. NewChallenger

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    it just is odd that the story out there is that Mike ducked him with 4 million dollar step aside money, where if you really look at it, Mike really had no reason to think he'd lose.

    But the narrative out there is Tyson ducked him for 4 mill
     
  10. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    There are some narratives which gain weight over time because of how things ended.
     
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  11. thistle

    thistle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Tyson feared no one, Management & 'other' Boxing parties may have, on both sides, ducking, fearing, pricing or stipulations hindering such meetings.

    Man, just look at ALL the B.S with respect to Fury vs AJ for 6 definite years and then a good few more still going... THAT Is Boxing, rarely Equal or on the Level, in one way shape or form.

    Truthfully, I believe Lewis feared Tyson more, as everyone did then, but Tyson after Holy, Douglas & Lewis was certainly less motivated & confident.
     
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  12. NewChallenger

    NewChallenger Member Full Member

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    I personally don't see it. Watching a lot of Lewis fights lately, I see a lot of him being overrated. He had WAY more problems with Holyfield in the 2nd fight than he should have. Vitali could have knocked him out in the 2nd round of their fight, but decided to just look at him instead of finishing.

    When Mike and Lennox fought, Lennox clinched him like 12 times in the first round alone and just kept clinching him for like 4 rounds til he gassed and he barely did anything but land 1 uppercut in the 1st I think. And this was Mike at his worst.

    The more I see of Lennox, the more I feel like ,he only looked good,because the people that fought him were either old (Like Holyfield or Mike who needed the stamina to up their workrate and combinations and in Mike's case head movement and speed) ,beaten up (like Ruddock) or just not really all that great, aside from Vitali.

    Watching Lennox fight Holyfield and Mike, there is nothing I see that doesn't suggest that the two of them woudln't have beat him in their primes. Evander's problem in the 2nd fight was he was afraid of gassing so his workrate was low.
     
  13. NewChallenger

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    Mike was "Afraid" of George because he thought it was a stylistic nightmare.

    If you watch Lewis fight Tyson, I don't see anything different from what Bruno was doing compared to Lewis in the first 3 rounds. But I guess Lewis wasn't afraid cause he won
     
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  14. Overhand94

    Overhand94 Active Member Full Member

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    Even that is a myth which has no reliable source.
     
  15. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You can think someone is a risk even if you think you'd best him. And if you can fight someone who brings more money but is thought to be less risk, it might be tempting.

    And that is just what Tyson did, so I don't understand what we're arguing really.
     
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