Are people becoming a little hypocritical when it comes to Usyk?

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  1. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Missed that. But it's a confusing business at the best of times.
     
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  2. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    He fought chisora 3 times for what? Chisora is an ok scalp but definitely not a bragging point by any means lol. Ngannou embarrassed Fury and the sport of boxing that night and many thought he won, Aj put him under an oxygen mask because it looked like he died in there. And again him being competitive against Usyk still doesn't excuse how he basically would have been stopped by the ref if he were anyone else.
     
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  3. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    He got that much because it was the Fury fight. He won't sniff that amount against anyone besides Fury or AJ. I don't keep up with purses that much but it wouldn't surprise me if AJ made more money without a belt than Usyk did vs Dubois with all of them.
     
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  4. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The point is that he doesn't need AJ for big money fights. Things change, and with the Saudis running the show Usyk will pull big money no matter who he fights. He's a draw in his own right now.
     
  5. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Which really highlights how abysmal AJs last 4 opponents have been when "OK scalp" Chisora is the better opponent.
     
  6. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    Usyk took an inconsequential breather after throwing a barrage of punches in the very final moments of a distance fight - his last punch thrown being 3 seconds prior to the final bell.

    AJ’s back didn’t touch the ropes until there was just 5 seconds left in the round.

    Was there an invisible third fighter in the ring hitting Joshua, forcing him to stumble back into the ropes? I mean, according to you, Olek had stopped punching 5 seconds prior to that.

    The fact is that it was a maintained barrage of punches from Usyk that seamlessly put AJ on the ropes - no delayed reaction on AJ’s part.

    First you said that Olek did nothing in the final 20 seconds.

    Upon your own review you then claimed that Usyk did nothing in the final 10 seconds.

    You also falsely claimed that we were both wrong in attempt to diffuse your own error.

    Even after your review, you were/are still wrong and it has only ever been you who has been wrong on this point.

    But you still maintain/conclude that Usyk let AJ off the hook despite your initial and continued attempt to alter the actual facts to fit your preferred narrative.

    Wow.
     
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  7. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Last punch was thrown with ten seconds to go. AJ was there for the taking, there was nothing for Usyk to lose, yet he sat back until the bell rang.

    We'll have to agree to disagree at this point mate as those paragraphs are suggesting you're getting a little too emotional.
     
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  8. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT banned Full Member

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    The paragraphs suggest nothing of the sort. That’s merely a laughable deflection on your part.

    I have been precise, concise and on point. I also haven’t modified my position mid discussion.

    You also still don’t seem to understand that the broadcast timer for the round was 6 seconds
    S-L-O-W - which is likely where you’re getting your revised 10 seconds left in the round from (vs your original 20 second claim).

    I get it. What difference does 10 seconds make between two wayward claims that are hyperbolic in both the first and second instance? You moved from 20 secs to 10 secs.

    Try moving from 20 secs all the way down to a mere 3 seconds. Fact. Lol.

    You were wrong and are still wrong - clearly too stubborn to admit to it and still trying to warp the facts to fit your preferred conclusion.

    Fine you can kid yourself, I’ve already provided the concrete evidence in refutation which is the exact reason for your withdrawal.
     
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  9. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Way to prove my point. Let it go.
     
  10. sdot_thadon

    sdot_thadon Active Member Full Member

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    Big money isn't 5 mil compared to 40 lol. Math ain't mathin. For the 1st undisputed heavyweight in forever 5 mil is not a "big draw" when Guys like Fury and Joshua pull more without belts. Uayk is a champion. Those guys are attractions.
    I don't think that says what you think it does. Chisora is a solid matchup that isn't going to beat the elite guys. Aside from Chisora who we know Aj would beat like a drum. Fury fought 2 guys that Aj no doubt beat more handily than Fury did( Whyte, Ngannou) and I no longer have any doubts about how a Wilder fight would go for Aj and neither should you. Last 4 fights, much ado about nothing.
     
  11. The Cryptkeeper

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    Anybody criticising Usyk is no boxing fan.

    The guy is an ornament to the sport.
     
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  12. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk got paid 45m in his last fight, he'll be getting more in the next. Saudis are paying him top dollar because he's the undisputed heavyweight champion. That 5m you're quoting was before he had that distinction.

    As for AJ beating Chisora, he has never fought him, or anyone as good as him since before he lost to Usyk. All you're speaking is hypotheticals because AJ has been avoiding challenges on his never ending rebuild journey to "find himself" a gift belt from a guy he couldn't beat.
     
  13. Kiwi Casual

    Kiwi Casual Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Over idolization is a sad thing to see. Yes he's the best thing to happen to the sport for decades, but he's not immune to the same scrutiny everyone else gets. Nor should he be.
     
  14. sdot_thadon

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    He made that purse because of Fury buddy and he'll make the next one because of him too. He got paid that 5 mil vs Dubois if I'm recalling correctly, with almost all of the belts around his waist. Meanwhile Joshua and Fury both clear that with less belts. I'm a fan of what Usyk has done but I feel like he's being held on a pedestal by guys who hated the other 2 lol. And we're skewing away from the point here. He won't make anywhere near the same money fighting anyone but Joshua or Fury. It's the reason he's only interested in taking more fights with them. 5 mil is alot to regular folk but it's not the 45 mil he'll make against Fury, nor the 75 mil he reportedly made in the Joshua rematch.
    The irony.
     
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  15. deadACE

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    An Anthony Joshua bash thread disguised as something else hahaha.

    The OP has spent the last two weeks crying his eyes out over Joshua ffs. Repeating the same bollocks too.

    Joshua must be doing something right . Biggest payday at HW, multiple opportunities at belts. Joshua living his best life. The OP living his worst lol.
     
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