Your take on Haney-Lomachenko now that some time has passed?

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Haney dominated that fool to the body early

    I had hoaney by 1 or 2 rounds
     
  2. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    Was this meant to quote me? You should learn how to quote people if you want to get your point to get across.

    Floyd is older than Pac, doesn't make sense, both of them were past their prime while Davis is in his prime right now and Loma has absorbed very little damage in his career, only 36 and has looked better than ever beating Kambosos winning the IBF strap.

    Yeah Davis could have fought him few years back but he didn't and is challenging him now, so what? The fight now would be bigger than it would be before, Loma would make a lot of money and possibly become an ATG if he beats Davis, what's stopping him? He flat out DUCKED the challenge when Davis and his team challenged him in a unification, it's absurd. I personally think Loma has a very good chance outboxing and beating Davis, Davis is extremely overrated and he was getting outboxed by bums like Rolly Romero and Isaac Cruz, Loma is slick enough to avoid the knockout and earn a decision but he fell for the Davis hype. Absolutely wants nothing to do with him, guy might as well just retire.
     
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  3. Rilz

    Rilz Ball don't lie! Full Member

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    Clear Loma win, awful robbery.
     
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  4. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I haven’t rewatched it. At the time I felt it was close and Loma was ahead but may have lost it with low activity in the last round or two.

    I was impressed and surprised by Haneys willingness to fight with Loma, and Haney is one of my most disliked popular fighters..
     
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  5. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    7-5 Lomachenko is an optimal card I think.

    There were reasons for the hysteria on here I suppose - Moretti's scoring of the tenth seems bizarre, I like to extend the benefit of the doubt to judges but that one was as baffling as Lewis-Holyfield I round 5 (I think it was). But Compubox has about 9 jabs between them and 5 power punches between them.

    https://boxrec.com/en/scoring/2957939

    831 people have scored this fight for Boxrec now, and it is 113.3-114.57. It is 113-115 Loma as optimal. I'm sorry, but this is a close fight.
     
  6. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Yes, people saying fights like this are a “blatant robbery” are as much a black eye for boxing as actual robbery decisions..
     
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  7. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It is uncomfortable viewing for me when what I consider groupthink swells on the forum and the indignation becomes fact. I don't like it at all. It reminds me of political governance by conviction. Suddenly the most important thing is to believe something with passion.

    But I don't like to argue too forcefully in the other direction, because I really don't think Haney won. It's just, people need to understand that what they see on tv isn't what is happening from the judge's perspectives and judges don't judge on tvs. But maybe they should now.
     
  8. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    I could not have said it better myself. It seems to happen a lot with the eastern euro guys lately for whatever reason too.

    (Canelo - GGG, people talking like Usyk blew Fury out and that’s the only way to see it, this thread.)
     
  9. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Not even close to a robbery. I guess people don't score body punches when their favorite is taking them.
     
  10. DaRealJT

    DaRealJT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Summed up my thoughts perfectly. On the night I remember thinking it was an extremely close fight that could’ve went either way. The 116-112 Haney card was wide, but 115-113 Haney was not an egregious scorecard, and I say that as someone who absolutely ****ing despises Devin Haney.
     
  11. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And we need to take into consideration Loma outlanded Haney 31-7 in rounds 10 and 11. So for the remaining 10 rounds, the punches landed would be 103 - 93 for Haney (89 - 75 in power punches). I still don't see how anyone can say it was a robbery if they are not boxing casuals who don't know boxing is scored round per round and Loma winning 2 big rounds is not better than Haney winning 2 very close rounds.
     
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  12. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Loma was robbed via politics

    They wanted to make Haney into the next superstar and because Loma had less mileage remaining

    Loma probably lost his heart for the game after that
     
  13. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Did not read irrelevant
    Vintage was rising loma already had miles on the clock
    I've got car to sell you
     
  14. DirtyDan

    DirtyDan Worst Poster of 2015 Full Member

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    :eyebrow2: Trying to understand this post but I don’t even think you understand it.
     
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  15. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Lol
    I'm like the code the English struggled to crack
    Could call me an enigma:)